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I do recall some chatter early on that there would be some way to "use the force" in the lands - whether by buying a lightsaber or something else you wear that enables it and you'd be able to make things move or whatever -... but guess in the end they didn't go that route

but yeah, even something like an add on for phones or something to "enable" the blue tooth technology to work and have things in the land happen. Guess this is another way to do it


I'm thinking these would be great addons after the initial crowds/experiences. If any part is akin to SOTMK, they could disrupt flow and overall experience for everyone.
 
I actually like the Tiki Room more then the Country Bears. However, I have not been to the Tiki Room at WDW in awhile. I have been to the Tiki Room at DLR everytime I go for some reason.
 


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more ways to make your Disneycruise even more expensive! (that said, i am sure they are great experiences for those that can swing it)

https://www.wdwinfo.com/news-storie...ced-for-caribbean-itineraries-in-summer-2020/
Being honest, this sounds amazing! Just too rich for me. Sadly we're priced completely out of Disney cruising. 😢 Their cruises are excellent but the 💲 will only stretch so far. Still, extremely thankful that trips to WDW are still within our budget!!
 
I actually like the Tiki Room more then the Country Bears. However, I have not been to the Tiki Room at WDW in awhile. I have been to the Tiki Room at DLR everytime I go for some reason.

Tiki room at DLR is the original and also seems to get more love and attention ... to be honest, I would be way more upset if they got rid of the Tiki Room at DLR than the one at WDW
 


I do recall some chatter early on that there would be some way to "use the force" in the lands - whether by buying a lightsaber or something else you wear that enables it and you'd be able to make things move or whatever -... but guess in the end they didn't go that route

but yeah, even something like an add on for phones or something to "enable" the blue tooth technology to work and have things in the land happen. Guess this is another way to do it

I’ll preface this by saying I’m reserving judgment until I actually experience the land in person.

I am initially disappointed they didn’t incrparate this so far. One of the “saving graces” to only having 2 rides was that the land itself was going to be an attraction. Meaning using the force and having interactions based on your performance on the Falcon. So far these haven’t come to fruition. But perhaps they will...
 
I’ll preface this by saying I’m reserving judgment until I actually experience the land in person.

I am initially disappointed they didn’t incrparate this so far. One of the “saving graces” to only having 2 rides was that the land itself was going to be an attraction. Meaning using the force and having interactions based on your performance on the Falcon. So far these haven’t come to fruition. But perhaps they will...


They should add something like this to Pandora too!
 
I’ll preface this by saying I’m reserving judgment until I actually experience the land in person.

I am initially disappointed they didn’t incrparate this so far. One of the “saving graces” to only having 2 rides was that the land itself was going to be an attraction. Meaning using the force and having interactions based on your performance on the Falcon. So far these haven’t come to fruition. But perhaps they will...

There are some interactive elements (the creature in the water tank, etc.) and if you get a droid they do interact with things, and then the play app on your phone there is a lot to do with decoding and translating and stuff like that

But there is more to be done - hopefully they add it over time
 
They should add something like this to Pandora too!

The initial media around Pandora talked about interactive bioluminescence at night - that the pathways would light up as you stepped on them and some plants would react to your touch and motion, etc. .... but then due to tech challenges and/or budgets they didn't fully execute that and just did mostly glow int he dark paint. still looks pretty but didnt' deliver on intiial indications
 
If they are looking to spread crowds out. Cheap overlays would be one way to do it. Like it or not, it would pique the interest of many. So more than normal numbers would visit the attractions to see what is new and either like it or hate it. Keeping those attractions somewhat fresh with overlays is a solid strategy. We all don't want to lose classics, but I'm sure there are attendance numbers showing usage. If attendance is declining on those attractions, no matter how classic you have to consider something to reinvigorate it. They are getting too busy to have attractions that are not utilizing there capacity.
 
However, I will be very upset if all these IP rumors come true. I think the IP overlays of current attractions are very cheap and short sighted. Sure, you are getting some short term satisfaction but the long term effect on these decisions are very poor.

As an example, I have to confess that the pirate voices talking about "Captain Jack Sparrow" in POTC kinda bugs me, so I may agree depending on execution. Having his statue peppered about in there doesn't bother me too much, there may be too many of htem. The experience of the ride hasn't changed a lot so maybe I'm a curmudgeon here. The overall drift towards IP is a little concerning as many are pointing out on the boards.
 
If they are looking to spread crowds out. Cheap overlays would be one way to do it. Like it or not, it would pique the interest of many. So more than normal numbers would visit the attractions to see what is new and either like it or hate it. Keeping those attractions somewhat fresh with overlays is a solid strategy. We all don't want to lose classics, but I'm sure there are attendance numbers showing usage. If attendance is declining on those attractions, no matter how classic you have to consider something to reinvigorate it. They are getting too busy to have attractions that are not utilizing there capacity.

IF that was the case though they wouldnt be closing rides and not replacing them right away like. Stitch and to be honest it hasnt been that busy in the past year, I went multiple times in the past year and the Parks were not as crowded as they have been in the past, except maybe fore MNSSHP which was on par. Also if they were worried about running a attraction that doesnt run at capacity then they would have closed Carousel of Progress years ago which is a much larger attraction that has a larger building and cost to run with the moving stage and theaters and 4 continuously operating scenes. Disney historically hasnt cared about rides not utilizing capacity or spreading crowds out. After all Disney periodically doesnt run even popular rides at full capacity.
 
So I may be the biggest Tiki bird fan here - and I was THRILLED when they got rid of the awful "Under New Management" overlay.

That said, I would actually be OK with them changing the show as long as it actually INCORPORATED the Tiki Birds. "Under New Management" was insulting to the Tiki Birds and it's what pissed me off about it.

However, Moana may be a bit of a tricky fit - it really isn't a GREAT fit because Moana is all about the OCEAN - and there is nothing in the Tiki Birds that is about the ocean. I could see working Moana and Maui into the show - perhaps with a live actor Moana and a projection Maui.
Here's a simple proto script
Just keep the Tiki room song in tact at the beginning,
Moana comes out and visit the Tiki room and say she is searching for Maui to save her people
Have her sing "How Far I'll go" with the birds accompaniment. (So cut out "Let's all sing like the birdies sing".)
Then have the Tiki Birds do the Tiki chant (current finale) to call to Maui for help. (You could even bring some little kids up front to "help" with the chant a la the "Festival of the Lion King".
Have either a projection or anamatronic of Maui show up - similar to Pele in the "UNM" show - sing a short version of "You're Welcome" and then send Moana/Maui on their way.
Have the Tiki Birds thank the crowd for their help and sing the crowd out "Heigh ho, Heigh ho".

You keep pieces of the old show, incorporate Moana without "ruining" the Tiki Birds, and get bigger crowds.
 
IF that was the case though they wouldnt be closing rides and not replacing them right away like. Stitch and to be honest it hasnt been that busy in the past year, I went multiple times in the past year and the Parks were not as crowded as they have been in the past, except maybe fore MNSSHP which was on par. Also if they were worried about running a attraction that doesnt run at capacity then they would have closed Carousel of Progress years ago which is a much larger attraction that has a larger building and cost to run with the moving stage and theaters and 4 continuously operating scenes. Disney historically hasnt cared about rides not utilizing capacity or spreading crowds out. After all Disney periodically doesnt run even popular rides at full capacity.
My guess is this is a combination effect...
Per one insider at WDWMagic.com -
1) need for capacity
2) need for current IP - lets face it Disney is falling to the current society which is what have you done for me lately, and only emphasizing NOW over what is classic
3) need for repair or refurb anyway
4) lack of popularity

With this as a driver - CoP and a few others may really be in danger if they stay on this current path.
 
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