SW If you want to sit with your kids

Regarding the two people together taking an aisle seat and a window seat; the only time I get annoyed by it is when they are constantly talking to each other, right over me. I was once seated between a mom and her teenage son. I didn't realize when I sat down they were together, but right after I was seated they started bickering. The whole flight the two of them were being nasty to each other right across me. It was so awkward.
 
With Southwest you need to be at the gate 30-40 minutes before flight time ready to board.
You should be at the gate well before that because boarding begins around 30mins ahead. I've had them start boarding before that too.

I think that's the issue for some families when it's not an issue of a flight being delayed. They don't get to the gate far enough in advance. Also I've seen parents who hold back on boarding with their young one but then of course without assigned seats they board to find themselves in a bind. Sometimes a seat is being saved for them but of course saving seats is always a risk. I know traveling with young ones can be hard and they get antsy but the parents/guardians aren't doing themselves a favor if they actively chosing to hold back and board late and they become inconsiderate to the rest of folks who boarded and now could find themselves asked to be moved.

You have your seats and can sit with family members.
Only if the airline that has assigned seating doesn't change your seats. I don't know how many people actively continuing checking their seats. Delta for instance didn't give us notice when they changed our seats though luckily we were kept together it was an aircraft change with less seats on the new plane.

Also overhead bin space is still the issue. I guess if you only had a personal item you may not care about boarding early because you don't need the overhead bin.
 
This is why I won’t fly SW at all. I’ll pay more on another airline for guaranteed seats with my kids. Not worth the stress IMHO, no way. SW, the cattle call airline, is what my travel agent called it once LOL! If you are solo I guess it might be a good idea but as a party of 5 I don’t think so.

You know that guarantees mean that unwanted things can still happen, yes? Like if UPS says “guaranteed by Tuesday” it just means I’ll get some sort of compensation if it doesn’t arrive on Tuesday.

I *started* flying SW (pre internet) when too many times my carefully-chosen seat was given to someone else at some point between booking and boarding.

I always roll my eyes at 2 people traveling together and taking a window and aisle seat. The flight attendants announce repeatedly that the plane is full, yet they don't move. I guess they really like having a stranger sit between them.

Why assume all those people are traveling together in the first place? I’m an avid people watcher, but by the time I’m boarding a plane I rarely remember who at the gate seemed to be together etc.

And why roll your eyes?

AND why assume everyone hates the middle seat? When I’m smaller I don’t mind the middle at all. I’m short and legroom is never an issue. When smaller I can take up a tiny amount of room between people and have a perfectly nice flight.

I’m with you!

I haven’t flown since 2004. Things have changed so dramatically. I remember when flying was a thrill. Meals were expected.

If you haven’t since then you have NO idea what boarding is like now for SW or for the legacy airlines.

SW is incredibly decent compared to the madness of other airlines. You know exactly where to stand and they tell you when. As long as the others in line aren’t playing the “it doesn’t matter what number I am so don’t worry about being in numerical order” game (funny how they don’t mind if you get behind them despite being 20 compared to their 25, eh?) it’s incredibly civilized. I never minded the previous way they had of boarding to begin with, but their former way is pretty much what legacies have become once your group is called.

SW is a vacation compared to others sometimes. Even compared to legacy first class. My ex was routinely upgraded to first. He dresses very casually. And people would step in front of him and even actually block him while he waited or walked to board when first was called. People assumed he didn’t belong there since he was wearing cargo shorts. And he knew that that’s what they were doing because they would use their voices to speak to him to chide him for moving to board when he obviously didn’t have a first class seat.

And first on a domestic flight is so rarely worth paying for.

As for meals...when meals were a given, tickets were very very expensive. When I flew in the early 80s for my 8th grade DC trip the tickets were $800 from SFO. There is zero chance I would book a flight like that for $800. If flight costs went along with inflation then I’m sure we’d all still be getting meals, but thankfully they haven’t, and I’m ok with a $400 cross country roundtrip ticket and getting food in another way.

As for well fed...you can order a perfectly lovely cheese plate or tapas box for $8-9 on many airlines (not SW) that’s better than anything I’ve gotten even in First (when then-husband was upgraded and gave me the seat) and for far cheaper.

Add to that that First seats are generally longer from back to front (so my feet don’t hit the ground) and slippery, but domestic lines don’t really give the width enough to curl up on the seat so my legs aren’t dangling, and ugh.

I hope you like your first class trip better and that it’s all that you hoped for. Maybe, though...don’t dress casually.



My husband is likely to get an earlier boarding position than me.

Why?

But if he does, have him sit in the aisle for you.

I"ve seen a lot of people get upset when someone sits down in that seat when they were expecting it to remain empty.

Again, decades of people watching experience have told me that I cannot rely on my interpretation of the emotions of others. Nor do I see the point in projecting my understanding onto others. I prefer to think that any supposed upset or nasty looks simply have to do with their underwear literally bunching while moving, or thinking of something sad or irritating, etc. Makes things nicer for me thinking everyone is irritated at the things happening right around them.

And I say that to people because my face is so often misread, and it makes me sad, and I’d like to help people stop judging expressions and considering them fact.

Genetics gave me RBF-extraordinaire, and it gets old old old to have people only pay attention to that and not to my kind soft voice or smile or helpfulness.
 
This is not an "issue."
That was the point of my post. People have different, valid to them, reasons for and against specific choices. There are reasons for,and against staying on site for example. Many posters don't think reasons offered by posters with a different opinion have any validity.

With Southwest you need to be at the gate 30-40 minutes before your flight. I agree with a PP, maybe even 45 minutes. A person with an assigned seat can get to the gate 10-15 minutes before their flight. 30 minutes extra time to sleep, shop, eat whatever. An issue for some and not for others.

Airline seas aren't very comfortable. I bring a memory foam cushion with me. Spending an extra 30 minutes in the plane isn't the end of the world to me BUT I understand why some passengers don't want to board early.

Bin space isn't any issue if you only travel with a personal item. Also not an issue if your bin bag can be gate checked. Make sure you can easily remove medicine, cameras and other items which shouldn't e checked.

I fly Southwest. I have no problem with their policies.

BUT I understand why some people have valid reasons for preferring assigned seats.
 
Why?

But if he does, have him sit in the aisle for you.

I was assuming because he booked his flight first, then went back in and added me on his companion pass that he would have an earlier boarding position?
 
If you bought the tickets at the same time and you both have EBCI , your boarding numbers should be together.


And Congratulation on the new grandson. :love:
Three out of last four flights with EBCI DH and I were at least nine numbers apart.
 
Years ago we planned a trip from Missouri to WDW with our two boys, my mom was going to fly to Missouri then onto WDW, well it turned out that the flight from Portland OR was the one that stopped in Kansas City and onto WDW. We did the family boarding in KC and found my mom had seats held for us.. how? Well excited grandma first of all, but I found out she'd offerd to buy drinks if people would help her out. Smart woman!
 
I haven’t flown since 2004. Things have changed so dramatically...In 10 days, we are flying AA First Class. We will be together, comfortable, and well fed. For me, that’s the only tolerable way to fly.
I agree. Domestic first class isn't nearly as expensive as it used to be. There are reasonable prices for it available regularly now. Not cheap like economy, but definitely not always roll-your-eyes expensive, either. It is often just low enough to be worth it to those who don't want to be subjected to the economy flying experience.

I was on a flight once in which an older couple got off shortly after boarding. They were commenting on the man not realizing how packed it would be, & he just couldn't take that. I suspect they had flown economy decades ago, but not since, & were not aware how much about the experience has changed for the worse.
 
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I was assuming because he booked his flight first, then went back in and added me on his companion pass that he would have an earlier boarding position?
This is correct. The exception is when your seat costs more: then SWA might put you before him even though he bought his ticket first. I had that happen once.
 
I KNOW it's not a mandatory everyone move together on Southwest. I just assumed (apparently wrongly, lol) that people would rather sit next to their traveling companion than a stranger so by not sitting next to each other right away were delaying the inevitable.
If that were so, why should just one person in the party take on the entire burden of sitting next to a stranger? This way, nobody's especially happy ;)
Assigned seats allows you to board minutes before push back, 10 minutes or so before your flight time. You have your seats and can sit with family members. With Southwest you need to be at the gate 30-40 minutes before flight time ready to board.
Allows or enables, okay. But it's still advised to be at the gate a reasonable amount of time before the flight.
 
:rotfl2: I once took a flight from PHX to LAX on a legacy airline. They let status fliers board first...after that, the remaining 6 of us boarded. I think there were too many regular commuters between these 2 cities.
The 6 AM LGA to ORD is like that. I had status (and still do), and was among the last 20 people to board. It's a combination of the route and the timing of it, since hub to hub also end up with lots of no-status feeding to an onward flight. But that flight was nice, we boarded the 140 passenger MD-80 in under 15 minutes every time.

Those were nice aircraft, I always took an A window seat because the curve of the aircraft gave me the perfect spot to fall asleep in (the F windows had a different less desirable curve). Noisy in the back, but so nice otherwise.
 
For those couples who want an aisle and a window on a full flight why not sit a row apart. That allows for two other parties parties of two to sit together.
 
For those couples who want an aisle and a window on a full flight why not sit a row apart. That allows for two other parties parties of two to sit together.

People can sit how they want- if people sit aisle and window they are in the same row. By your suggested way they are farther apart.

Whole point of all of this is people need to be proactive and plan if it is important to sit with their children. Not paying for EBCI or seats is not the place to cut costs. If you want to be together pay to make it happen (yes there are circumstances with plane changes, delays, etc).
 

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