Major fastpasses already gone at 7 am, 60 days out...

I do see your point. I think what gets me, though, is the fact that I can try at exactly the right time, with the fastest internet in the world, on a website/app that is miraculously working perfectly..... and not have a shot.

All because I can't stay as long as other folks can.
I hear that. To that end, I would have zero problem getting up every day 60 days out and not having length of stay be a part of it. But, I’m on the east coast, and at 7:00 every morning I’m getting out of bed. I can do that 10 minutes later and be fine. Other time zones, not so convenient. I know, Disney can’t please everyone...
 
Precisely this. I'm resigned to not getting FOP, as I only have a 60+1, 2, and 3.

Even if you don’t get FoP, you can still find a short wait if you’re willing to hold out until close to closing time.

I’ve seen the actual wait as short as 17 minutes during the last half hour or so of operation.
 
All we are doing is feeding the beast - as we "complain" that we can't get certain Fast Passes even at 60 days and the system is unfair, Disney will find ways to "solve" that problem:

They already do the club level thing that is pretty beneficial if you want to pay for it.

How easy would it be for Disney to simply go:
Stay at a Deluxe? 80 day Fast Passes!
Stay at a Moderate? 70 day Fast Passes!
Stay at a Value or Disney Springs hotel? 60 day Fast Passes!

I mean, let's admit it, how many of us would consider "splurging" and moving up to Moderate or Deluxe to get an even better shot at getting those hard-to-get Fast Passes.

Or they may just implement a Fast Pass "upgrade" fee. Pay $x/person to get to make your reservations at 90 days instead of 60.
 
I had a few people the other day tell me it’s 6am est to book online? I’m in Oregon so am fully prepared to get up at 3am
Have to be honest, I never knew about the + days scenario. I always thought it was 60 days out then you could book your entire trip. Just to make sure I have this right, we arrive June 16th and are staying for 7 nights at WL. So is it right that on April 10th I can book for all 7 days (april 17th is 60 days out)?

I feel like such a rookie. I should really know this answer.
 


I had a few people the other day tell me it’s 6am est to book online? I’m in Oregon so am fully prepared to get up at 3am
Have to be honest, I never knew about the + days scenario. I always thought it was 60 days out then you could book your entire trip. Just to make sure I have this right, we arrive June 16th and are staying for 7 nights at WL. So is it right that on April 10th I can book for all 7 days (april 17th is 60 days out)?

I feel like such a rookie. I should really know this answer.

If you arrive on 6/16/19, you can book FPs for your entire trip beginning 7am ET on 4/17/19. It is 60 days from your check-in date.
 
Precisely this. I'm resigned to not getting FOP, as I only have a 60+1, 2, and 3.

I got FOP at 60+3 with no problem. It was an afternoon time (2:05), but I expected that. I was tweaking FPs about an hour after I initially made them, and there were still slots in the 5:30 PM and later range for that day.
 


Keep trying continually. I'm local to the park and decided on a Wednesday to go to Toy Story Land on Saturday. I tried several times to get SDD and finally landed 3 fastpasses. We didn't get to the park until about 30 minutes after rope drop and discovered only a 30 minute standby line once we got to SDD. As a side note, I recommend going through the standby line at least once. There is so much to see in the queue.
 
I wonder how many people try to "game" the system:
1) Book a long (10-day trip - get their fast passes for the end of the trip and then simply cut out the first few days of the trip to the lengthy they really wanted.

If people try this, they may wind up either not going at all or paying for the extra days. Unless something has changed since my last stay, Disney now does not allow you to simply add or subtract days from your stay. They will book a new-- shorter or longer-- reservation if those dates are available, but if the hotel is booked full for any of the dates within the range they will not allow you to drop the days. They changed the fine print to something along the lines of "reservation may be modified subject to availability." I remember a lot of people (including myself) had issues with this last winter. (I wasn't trying to subtract, I was trying to add dates that were available, but because some of the dates I already had booked were full they wouldn't allow me to modify.)

Have to be honest, I never knew about the + days scenario. I always thought it was 60 days out then you could book your entire trip. Just to make sure I have this right, we arrive June 16th and are staying for 7 nights at WL. So is it right that on April 10th I can book for all 7 days (april 17th is 60 days out)?

I feel like such a rookie. I should really know this answer.

I think you're misreading what people mean by 60 + x days. Your original interpretation is correct. At 60 days out from check in date you can book for your entire trip. It's not 67 days out you can book because you get a bonus for staying for 7 days.

When people are referring to 60+3, +4, etc. they just mean that many days INTO your trip (not that many days BEFORE your trip). Ex. When you log on at your 60 days from check-in mark, you may not find anything for Flight of Passage until the third day of your trip (60+3)
 
If people try this, they may wind up either not going at all or paying for the extra days. Unless something has changed since my last stay, Disney now does not allow you to simply add or subtract days from your stay. They will book a new-- shorter or longer-- reservation if those dates are available, but if the hotel is booked full for any of the dates within the range they will not allow you to drop the days. They changed the fine print to something along the lines of "reservation may be modified subject to availability." I remember a lot of people (including myself) had issues with this last winter. (I wasn't trying to subtract, I was trying to add dates that were available, but because some of the dates I already had booked were full they wouldn't allow me to modify.)



I think you're misreading what people mean by 60 + x days. Your original interpretation is correct. At 60 days out from check in date you can book for your entire trip. It's not 67 days out you can book because you get a bonus for staying for 7 days.

When people are referring to 60+3, +4, etc. they just mean that many days INTO your trip (not that many days BEFORE your trip). Ex. When you log on at your 60 days from check-in mark, you may not find anything for Flight of Passage until the third day of your trip (60+3)
Well said.
 
Even if you don’t get FoP, you can still find a short wait if you’re willing to hold out until close to closing time. I’ve seen the actual wait as short as 17 minutes during the last half hour or so of operation.

That, or RD, will be my backup plan! I must experience this phenomenon called FOP!! :)

I got FOP at 60+3 with no problem. It was an afternoon time (2:05), but I expected that. I was tweaking FPs about an hour after I initially made them, and there were still slots in the 5:30 PM and later range for that day.

There is hope, then! :)
 
Our 60 day mark was yesterday and we had good luck getting the FPs we wanted, including FOP (it was our 60+4 day but I just went to modify it and there is still availability for the afternoon and early evening showing). I haven't been in a few years ago this was my first time using FP+ and it was smoother than I expected.

I do recommend to keep checking though - at one point yesterday I didn't see anything for fantasmic for my first evening but later on there was availability (we are doing F&W so don't mind using our FP only for one evening experience).
 
If people try this, they may wind up either not going at all or paying for the extra days. Unless something has changed since my last stay, Disney now does not allow you to simply add or subtract days from your stay. They will book a new-- shorter or longer-- reservation if those dates are available, but if the hotel is booked full for any of the dates within the range they will not allow you to drop the days. They changed the fine print to something along the lines of "reservation may be modified subject to availability." I remember a lot of people (including myself) had issues with this last winter. (I wasn't trying to subtract, I was trying to add dates that were available, but because some of the dates I already had booked were full they wouldn't allow me to modify.)



I think you're misreading what people mean by 60 + x days. Your original interpretation is correct. At 60 days out from check in date you can book for your entire trip. It's not 67 days out you can book because you get a bonus for staying for 7 days.

When people are referring to 60+3, +4, etc. they just mean that many days INTO your trip (not that many days BEFORE your trip). Ex. When you log on at your 60 days from check-in mark, you may not find anything for Flight of Passage until the third day of your trip (60+3)
Thank you! I knew that was too good to be true!
 
So, if I'm understanding correctly, I should change my FP+ priority to SDD at DHS first, then try for FOP at AK?
We're planning JTA, so doing Rope Drop in Toy Story Land might not happen, but I have a Toy Story obsessed daughter. If she sees the Slinky Dog Dash, she will want to do it. (probably) I think the adults will really enjoy FOP, but it's the only thing I really care about at AK, so if we have to Rope Drop it, then so be it.

Ugh...my DHS day is 60+3, but at least we don't have any super high priority ADRs for the end of the week, so none of the days are super set in stone.
This is what I currently have planned...
Day 1 - arrival day, no park
Day 2 - Epcot
Day 3 - Hollywood Studios
Day 4 - nothing specific planned yet (we're switching from the Swan to ASMusic)
Day 5 - Magic Kingdom
Day 6 - Animal Kingdom

Would SDD be a likely acquisition on Day 4? I suppose, worst case scenario, we could do DHS two days in a row.
Or should I bump DHS to the last day, and just deal with locality not being quite as convenient as it will be on Day 3.
 
Sorry... I am new to all of this and a little confused abut a few things. What is meant by 60+3 and 60+4. I am checking in on 1/28 and staying until 2/6. a 10 day trip. I have purposely planned an AK and HS on the last two full days to try and get fastpasses for things like FoP and Sleepy Dog (as my 4 yo grandson says).Would these days be considered 60+8 and 60+9? Trying to understand the 60+ thing. I am traveling with a party of 8 so getting rolling FP may be more difficult so I have to really rely on the 60 day, 7am plan to get the tougher FP.
 
Sorry... I am new to all of this and a little confused abut a few things. What is meant by 60+3 and 60+4. I am checking in on 1/28 and staying until 2/6. a 10 day trip. I have purposely planned an AK and HS on the last two full days to try and get fastpasses for things like FoP and Sleepy Dog (as my 4 yo grandson says).Would these days be considered 60+8 and 60+9? Trying to understand the 60+ thing. I am traveling with a party of 8 so getting rolling FP may be more difficult so I have to really rely on the 60 day, 7am plan to get the tougher FP.
Yes. You would be looking at 60+8 and 60+9.
From the looks of it, you won't likely have trouble getting what you want, especially since you're still a few months out, so hopefully the hype will have died down ever so slightly...maybe.
 
Sorry... I am new to all of this and a little confused abut a few things. What is meant by 60+3 and 60+4. I am checking in on 1/28 and staying until 2/6. a 10 day trip. I have purposely planned an AK and HS on the last two full days to try and get fastpasses for things like FoP and Sleepy Dog (as my 4 yo grandson says).Would these days be considered 60+8 and 60+9? Trying to understand the 60+ thing. I am traveling with a party of 8 so getting rolling FP may be more difficult so I have to really rely on the 60 day, 7am plan to get the tougher FP.

Your arrival day is Day 60. The next day is 60+1, etc.
 
I try to book everything 60 days out. But SDD is all gone for 60+1 the day that I want. So I have to change my plan. But FOP is still available 60+2, although it's not in the mid-morning time frame that I want. I am going there in October too.

My advice is to plan DHS on the last days of your trip. Good luck.
 
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