Prix fixe at BOG

[Linkura]

Agree. That's the mealtime that is probably where Disney is losing potential income the most. Reservations, especially PPO ones, just to get into the park early, see the castle while getting a jump on Fantasyland attractions, all for the cost of 2 coffees and a couple pastries for parties of 5. LOL.

They more than make it up charging $25 for maybe $10 worth of food anywhere else on property. At dinner, the prices aren't nearly as jacked up and it's full table service.

 

[rg35]

I agree.

I don't think it will be long 'till they change breakfast and lunch to the same thing. You book 5 people, 5 people will have to order. No more having a full table sharing a cupcake so they can get a jump on the crowd on 7DMT. No more having people complaining about Disney expanding hours for MK. Maybe people will realize that opening early is a good thing. One can only hope.

Yes, I hope they change breakfast to cut down on this absurdity.

 

[mickeymouseclubhouse]

The Beast is staying per the comments of the announcement.

Honestly, I think this is a good move. People eating up ADRs just to see the castle and the Beast and only ordering coffee or a cupcake really grinds my gears. I'd been holding off on going to BOG for dinner because I heard the food wasn't great and there's no PPO advantage- if this is a real improvement, I might check it out. This ensures that only people who want to dine at BOG get ADRs, not moochers. And Disney ensures they're getting $55/$35 per guest. Win-win in my book for everyone except ADR-grubbers, who don't deserve a win. Oh, and maybe a loss for people on the dining plan, as $55 per shouldn't be two credits- more like 1.5, but I know that's not allowed.

Wow...My family has eaten here before and all ordered meals and would Love to eat here again and we are not "moochers" or "ADR grubbers" however this is not a win in our book because we have children who are " Disney adults" and in no way will my girls ever eat $55 worth of food , nor will my 4 year old eat $35 worth either. So yes this change hurts Families like ours also, not just the "ADR grubbers" but I'm glad this is a "win" for you

 

[Tonyz]

Wow Be Our Guest now signature dining.

This will certainly work to lower demand, and rocket it to top of the list of "Worst use of two dining credits."

 

[Linkura]

Wow...My family has eaten here before and all ordered meals and would Love to eat here again and we are not "moochers" or "ADR grubbers" however this is not a win in our book because we have children who are " Disney adults" and in no way will my girls ever eat $55 worth of food , nor will my 4 year old eat $35 worth either. So yes this change hurts Families like ours also, not just the "ADR grubbers" but I'm glad this is a "win" for you

Sorry, didn't mean to offend- wasn't my intention. It is a loss for people like you, of course.

 

[DisneyWishes14]

Goodbye cheapest character meal in all of WDW! Honestly, I can't believe it took them this long to do this! I agree with the others who said they think breakfast is next. Why they included any a la carte items on that menu is beyond me. WDW, haven't you figured us out yet? If there is a loophole, we WILL find it and we WILL use it! Well, we didn't, but many did and so, here we are.

I find this quite intriguing. On the one hand, the menu sounds good and the price is not bad for a 3-course meal, but the pricing still isn't on par with the signatures where just an entree could be almost $50, so I'm not expecting signature quality here. On the other hand, the pricing is more than Akershus dinner pricing and, currently, there is only one character at BOG dinner. So, I don't quite get the appeal? And certainly not for 2 credits when you could get a much bigger bang for that buck at CRT (or HDDR!). We don't purchase the dining plan, but if we did, there is no way I would use 2 credits here as opposed to going to say, Artist Point, Cali Grill or even CRT. Do you think there is more to this that they haven't announced yet? More characters, perhaps? Otherwise, while I understand and am glad they closed the dessert loophole, this particular structure certainly doesn't seem advantageous to those on the dining plan. Perhaps slightly more appealing to those paying OOP?

 

[Linkura]

Do you think there is more to this that they haven't announced yet?

Probably not because it's Disney and they know they can get away with it.

 

[Tonyz]

Wow...My family has eaten here before and all ordered meals and would Love to eat here again and we are not "moochers" or "ADR grubbers" however this is not a win in our book because we have children who are " Disney adults" and in no way will my girls ever eat $55 worth of food , nor will my 4 year old eat $35 worth either. So yes this change hurts Families like ours also, not just the "ADR grubbers" but I'm glad this is a "win" for you

I agree with this sentiment and I also think... who cares if people are only using their reservation to get a cupcake?? If someone misses out on eating here, there's 100 other places to go. I personally think reserving a table for an appetizer and a cupcake is smart. Is it cheating the system? Is it being greedy? Of course not! You're reserving a table for a certain time, you're showing up at that time, and you're ordering what you want to order.

But I understand Disney not loving it because it cuts into their profits.

 

[pd1138]

So we have had dinner here twice and liked it. We will be there this August and I couldn’t get dinner and DH was bummed. Saw the announcement this morning and at first thought no way, this is nuts. Out of our reach. DH arrives home from work and I show him the changes...now he wants me to get up Friday morning to get a reservation! He really likes the menu! Two oldest kids can’t wait to try octopus and snails.... just have to see what they come up with for the kid menu. I guess I’ve been out of it....I didn’t know all this time a few people were getting tables for cupcakes! Guess Disney didn’t like that.

 

[HopperFan]

They more than make it up charging $25 for maybe $10 worth of food anywhere else on property. At dinner, the prices aren't nearly as jacked up and it's full table service.

The reason it got that high is because of all the guests not ordering anything. So those that were paying, were paying more to cover the non-eaters. It didn't start that high and was actually quite reasonable. But they didn't make it a true prix fixe, guests figured it out and began ordering minimal amounts. If they had kept it true prix fixe we wouldn't be seeing this high price now.

It is a huge venue, with a high staffing due to the size, food delivery, extra bodies at check in and through out the process. It has a high overhead that doesn't change. Ordering cupcakes doesn't cover it.

 

[zebrastreyepz]

I'm very anti "gaming the system." Gaming the system is finding a way around rules to get something extra.

Ordering a cupcake, as long as it was allowed, was not "gaming the system" or "cheating."

It's not even tacky.

Because there wasn't, at the time, a rule about how much one had to spend in order to enjoy the ambiance and meet the Beast.

So stop acting like people committed some crime because they didn't eat the meal you think they should have eaten or spent whatever minimum you think ought to be required in order to eat at freakin' Disney World.

 

[GenGen22]

I guess it comes down to your priorities. CRT comes with all of the characters. BoG doesn't, and you can still get inside the castle at breakfast or lunch if you don't want to drop 2 credits on dinner.

yes that's true I'll have to talk it over with my daughter. We've never eaten inside the castle so, that's why I selected it this trip. We wanted to take pics with the Beast so, we're gonna reserve dinner this time around which I don't think is happening now.

The value of those 2 credits is better made at CRT. It's $55 OOP at BoG, so you'd be paying the equivalent of $90 if you use 2 TS credits for the adults.

this is a good point!

 

[HopperFan]

I'm very anti "gaming the system." Gaming the system is finding a way around rules to get something extra.

Ordering a cupcake, as long as it was allowed, was not "gaming the system" or "cheating."

It's not even tacky.

Because there wasn't, at the time, a rule about how much one had to spend in order to enjoy the ambiance and meet the Beast.

So stop acting like people committed some crime because they didn't eat the meal you think they should have eaten or spent whatever minimum you think ought to be required in order to eat at freakin' Disney World.

Not sure who you are directing this at but ........................ many of us who don't like the way this restaurant is run has nothing to do with cheating, tacky etc. We get it, Disney allows it, no rules breaking ... but I think many of us think Disney really screwed up on this.

My issue is from the perspective of a stockholder. The venue is large, almost too large. But this venue has great potential if for nothing else the imagineering has created demand. Promises were made when they added the "prix fixe" breakfast and then they dropped the ball. It's not prix fixe, everything is just the same price. I say either maximize the revenue or shut it down for breakfast. Make it true prix fixe and revenue goes way up and guests who truly want to eat there [not just use it for PPO or viewing purposes] will get the ADRs they are hoping for. The ones who want to get there early ... for Disney's benefit can stay on property for EMH or pay for EMM. I bet they can expand EMM days and increase revenues some more. And to satisfy the ones wanting the grey stuff ............. just sell the cupcakes at Gaston's Tavern. I think they are way past their novelty. I see lots of winners and revenue, if they continue with the change.

I've eaten there plenty of times; breakfast, lunch and dinner. I really don't care if I can't get an ADR. There are lots who would like to actually eat there, and I do feel bad for them.

 

[KateP85]

So from the details released so far, I think this sounds great! I actually don't think the price is too bad at all, although I guess we'll see how the quality of the food turns out. I do think it would be a terrible use of dining credits though!

I do wonder, will it be like a buffet where everyone pays the price no matter what they order, or will they screw it up like breakfast and allow sharing or people not eating at all? I'm not sure we'll get those details until it opens.

Now they just need to fix the prix fixe breakfast hoopla and maybe I'll actually get to eat at this restaurant sometime soon!

 

[KateP85]

I'm very anti "gaming the system." Gaming the system is finding a way around rules to get something extra.

Ordering a cupcake, as long as it was allowed, was not "gaming the system" or "cheating."

It's not even tacky.

Because there wasn't, at the time, a rule about how much one had to spend in order to enjoy the ambiance and meet the Beast.

So stop acting like people committed some crime because they didn't eat the meal you think they should have eaten or spent whatever minimum you think ought to be required in order to eat at freakin' Disney World.

As someone who used to be a server at Walt Disney World, I think taking up a table to order a glass of water and a cupcake is a crappy thing to do unless you're going to tip as you would ordering a full meal (which I bet no one ever did) - I bet the servers are thrilled about this change. I also disagree that it's not tacky, I think it's incredibly tacky - however, I'm more pleased with this because I think it will make ADRs easier to get for those who actually want to eat the food.

 

[Jimmy Mouse]

BOG was a one and done for us. Now that they changed I will for sure grab an ADR. Good Job Disney! and sorry for your loss, cupcake.

 

[PrincessWithABlaster]

I wish I had known this before so I could have booked a final BOG dinner for our May trip. Our oldest DD will be a Disney adult next year so we won’t be doing BOG dinner for quite a while. I loves me some good escargot but no way the kiddos will have much they’ll want to eat on an adult menu. Too bad. I liked BOG.

Off to go set up reservation finder. Sadly if we get one, I’m going to have to give up Skippers Canteen. And the kids are going to be dressed as pirates that day which fits so much better at SC than BOG. *sigh*

On the cupcake thing - is that really still a thing? I know it is at breakfast for PPO but BOGs been open years now. Are people really still ordering cupcakes to see the castle at dinner? In the beginning I can see it, but hasn’t most everyone who would do that seen it by now? If it’s real, fair enough, but it just sounds more like urban legend to me...

 

[Princess Serendipity]

I'm in the "delighted by this change" club. Initially I wondered if this would make dinner ADRs easier to get, but probably not. Mostly I'm excited by the menu change- I love the restaurant itself but was never terribly excited by the menu. The new appetizers and entrees sound like they might be a step in the right direction, I hope, and I don't think $55 for a three course meal (that could include filet mignon and shellfish) at Disney is that extravagant.

Now as a signature/2 credits? Hahahaha no. This is absolutely an out-of-pocket meal. In no way is Be Our Guest a signature restaurant. As a previous poster mentioned, it's not nearly quiet or intimate enough. My only guess is that they're trying to bring this up to be a second Cinderella's Royal Table affair- which, still no. Nor would I personally want it to be. I don't personally think CRT should really count as a signature either, but I'm imagining the 2 credit count is because of all the little extras/characters/exclusivity/location/flair so they skate by even if the food/noise level isn't really up to par.


As for the cupcake debacle, Disney kind of shot themselves in the foot by making the whole experience a restaurant only in the first place. Beauty and the Beast is one of their most beloved movies- of course people are going to want to experience a faithful recreation of the castle (and I am not a fan of people making dessert only reservations)! While I personally adore being able to have a meal in said castle, I think they could have benefited from also having an attraction of some sort in a similarly/identically themed building to take pressure off of the restaurant. The cost for doubling up on construction might be a bitter pill to swallow, but would have saved them a lot of frosting-flavored grief in the long run I suppose.

 

[hereforthechurros]

Welp, peace out BOG. I liked you, but I don't like this change. I'm pretty disappointed. Especially as I was using it as incentive for my child to eat more to eat the things they offered on the menu here and now he won't get to. Oh well. Should be fun explaining that to him. (He's on the spectrum or else it probably wouldn't be a big deal.)

This change is for dinner only so you can still take him for breakfast & lunch!

 

[GenGen22]

Is dinner the only meal where the Beast is present at or does he appear at the lunch ADR? I assume it's only dinner but need confirmation from someone who knows.