Something funny but disgusting happened today with my wife

[AnnaFloridaLover]

And while you hear that from your media it's simply not true or even close. I can tell you as an American who lives half the time in Canada some of the news you hear there about the US is simply not true and even at times laughable.

I'll agree with you on the laughable part of the news these days, however, the most of the rest of the free world is very savvy. You must be a barrel of laughs at your Canadian in-law's get-togethers.

 

[bcla]

Since the topic tangentially involves expensive cars, I always wondered what might happen if the damages from a collision are greater than an individual insurer's limits. California isn't a no fault state, so theoretically the party at fault would be paying for damages via the insurer. I was wondering what might happen if someone failing to yield right of way does something T-boning a Ferrari that costs more than the insurance limits.

 

[osopecoso]

Man, you have so much luck. Every issue on threads you've described here lately gets wrapped up so quickly!

Yes I was very lucky with this. Waiting for an officer to call me back to coordinate a time. This could have been a lot worse. I really don't care about the car (well I do but what is important that no one was injured). This old mans true colors came out. Thankfully he did not have a weapon.

 

[osopecoso]

Since the topic tangentially involves expensive cars, I always wondered what might happen if the damages from a collision are greater than an individual insurer's limits. California isn't a no fault state, so theoretically the party at fault would be paying for damages via the insurer. I was wondering what might happen if someone failing to yield right of way does something T-boning a Ferrari that costs more than the insurance limits.

Never thought of that. I guess the owner of the expensive car can always go after the insurance.

 

[bcla]

Never thought of that. I guess the owner of the expensive car can always go after the insurance.

Well - I know someone who owns a fairly new Ferrari, so I kind of wondered what would happen. They're actually quite good at protecting the occupant, but they're otherwise extremely fragile because they're built for performance via lightweight materials.

I had someone T-bone me last year and then took off. It was an ordeal and our insurer decided it wasn't worth it and just paid off us through California's required uninsured motorist coverage.

 

[AnnaFloridaLover]

Yes I was very lucky with this. Waiting for an officer to call me back to coordinate a time. This could have been a lot worse. I really don't care about the car (well I do but what is important that no one was injured). This old mans true colors came out. Thankfully he did not have a weapon.

I think this racist old man has lost his marbles. His car is a weapon, given the circumstances. He needs to have his licence revoked because racist or not, you don't mistake the gas for the brake or start pounding on a car until the police arrive without something being amiss with your brain.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

Not to derail the fascinating rebel flag discussion, but on the subject of older drivers & retaking tests, I for one would be in favor of much more stringent driving restrictions and ALL drivers being tested at renewal time.

It's also time for the "one size fits all" license to be rethought. At no point in the local driver's test is it necessary to exceed 20 MPH. Not exactly indicative of being able to merge at 75 on the interstate.

 

[Marchand63]

I try not to judge people with confederate flags on their vehicle... although the one time I have seen this in person I definitely failed... they were the most stereotypical example possible...

So first I live in MA so we don't see this often (and this truck had MA plates so it wasn't just traveling)

The truck had a lift kit but it must have been installed wrong because one side of the truck was obviously 6 inches lower then the other.
The truck was all banged and scraped up including being rusted
One brake light was out
They could barely drive the thing and went up on the curb trying to drive around a rotary


To make some of this post on topic: My area has alot of issue with older drivers that probably shouldn't be driving anymore. I know its age discrimination to make an age where you have to retake tests (how come its not age discrimination to make an age where you can legally drive but it is to make an age where you have to prove you still can? I mean older people still have the option to prove they are responsible... I'm pretty sure a few people could responsibly drive at 14 and they don't get that option) so why don't we instead say every other time you get your licence renewed you don't just take a vision test (that is the case in MA now anyway) but also a new driving test.

I realize you will still have people that can pass the test but drive horribly when they aren't being tested, but it would have stopped one old lady I knew that had hit her own garage 10 times because she couldn't see well enough to tell how far she was from it before she caused a real accident.

Sorry but if called into the RMV to renew, eye test is mandatory. However you can renew for approximately 10"years online befor being called in.

It's not age discrimination because driving is not a RIGHT, it's a privilege. I had to have a medical exam and for filled out the first time I went to renew my license at 23 because I have very Mild CP. My doctor filled out the form and wrote on it that there was no need to have one done each time I renewed every 5 years, as my condition is not degenerative any more than normal aging. At age 80 is when we have mandatory retesting for seniors unless diagnosed with a condition that would make it necessary sooner.

AARP has been fighting retest of seniors for years using age discrimination as a tool.

Not to detail the fascinating rebel flag discussion, but on the subject of older drivers & retaking tests, I for one would be in favor of much more stringent driving restrictions and ALL drivers being tested at renewal time.

It's also time for the "one size fits all" license to be rethought. At no point in the local driver's test is it necessary to exceed 20 MPH. Not exactly indicative of being able to merge at 75 on the interstate.

Maybe in Missouri but here in MA, yes some tests do involve highways.

 

[Colleen27]

Not to detail the fascinating rebel flag discussion, but on the subject of older drivers & retaking tests, I for one would be in favor of much more stringent driving restrictions and ALL drivers being tested at renewal time.

I think you'd end up with the unintended consequence of a far higher rate of driving unlicensed and therefore uninsured if you did that. I don't know about where you live, but here the road tests have to be administered by a licensed third-party driving school and cost $75-100 (and I'm sure that price would increase further if every driver had to be tested every few years). For lower-income drivers and folks living paycheck-to-paycheck, that would be a real obstacle to renewing in a timely manner.

 

[Sabeking]

I love how everyone is blaming this on dementia at 55. It happens, but it's pretty rare.

I'm confused , how did they know he was 55? Wasn't that another poster referring to a different story?

 

[BLAZEY]

Sorry but if called into the RMV to renew, eye test is mandatory. However you can renew for approximately 10"years online befor being called in.



AARP has been fighting retest of seniors for years using age discrimination as a tool.

To renew your licence as a senior with the retest is much cheaper, same with insurance discounts, but to get the discounts you have retest, and have the doctor fill out the same medical form I did, only because I wasn't a senior I didn't get the discounts.



Maybe in Missouri but here in MA, yes some tests do involve highways.

 

[bcla]

I think you'd end up with the unintended consequence of a far higher rate of driving unlicensed and therefore uninsured if you did that. I don't know about where you live, but here the road tests have to be administered by a licensed third-party driving school and cost $75-100 (and I'm sure that price would increase further if every driver had to be tested every few years). For lower-income drivers and folks living paycheck-to-paycheck, that would be a real obstacle to renewing in a timely manner.

That seems kind of unusual. In California it's solely via DMV employees and taking a test is free. Now I do remember when I tried to get a driver license before turning 18, a 6 hour on the road drivers training class was required before I could be licensed, as well as a licensed drivers ed class before I could get a permit. My parents paid $99 for the private training session, but we had a teacher at my school who did drivers ed and drivers training. I did drivers ed through my school, but the wait to get the drivers training was extremely long.

I looked up some of the other places that have third party driver tests. In some of them, the third party is optional, but the rationale for doing it is that they may be able to schedule a test sooner than through the public agency.

https://dmv.dc.gov/page/non-commercial-driver-license-ncdl-third-party-road-test-program

 

[Disney Doll]

Probably did. I had an older lately (about 55 or so) fail to stop and T-bone me.) Banged me up good. Ambulance and everything. She tried to claim it was my fault. But in the end, she didn't even get the direction I was coming from right. HAHA. So the officer knew it was she that didn't stop or look.

55 is an older lady? You're killing me.

 

[Colleen27]

That seems kind of unusual. In California it's solely via DMV employees and taking a test is free. Now I do remember when I tried to get a driver license before turning 18, a 6 hour on the road drivers training class was required before I could be licensed, as well as a licensed drivers ed class before I could get a permit. My parents paid $99 for the private training session, but we had a teacher at my school who did drivers ed and drivers training. I did drivers ed through my school, but the wait to get the drivers training was extremely long.

I looked up some of the other places that have third party driver tests. In some of them, the third party is optional, but the rationale for doing it is that they may be able to schedule a test sooner than through the public agency.

https://dmv.dc.gov/page/non-commercial-driver-license-ncdl-third-party-road-test-program

It was like that when I learned to drive but now it has all been privatized here. $300 for the first section of the drivers ed class, $150 for the second, $75-100 for the road test on the first attempt with a discount for retakes. My mom said, when I was complaining about the cost for my teens, that my brother and I wouldn't have learned to drive as teens if it was this way when we were young. We took drivers ed for free, after school, taught by the shop teacher, and passing drivers' ed waived the road test requirement!

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1640_14837-32387--,00.html

 

[bcla]

It was like that when I learned to drive but now it has all been privatized here. $300 for the first section of the drivers ed class, $150 for the second, $75-100 for the road test on the first attempt with a discount for retakes. My mom said, when I was complaining about the cost for my teens, that my brother and I wouldn't have learned to drive as teens if it was this way when we were young. We took drivers ed for free, after school, taught by the shop teacher, and passing drivers' ed waived the road test requirement!

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1640_14837-32387--,00.html

Not where I lived. I didn't take drivers ed until I was 16. I was actually on my learners permit until maybe 3 months before I turned 18. However, I was about start college so I really needed a driver license. We had the whole deal where we needed maybe 25 hours of behind the wheel time, but for a provisional (under 18) license it required the 6 hours of driver training from a licensed instructor. If I'd just waited until I turned 18, I wouldn't have needed the licensed driver training, but I would need the behind the wheel time. And I still needed to take the test at the DMV.

I just kind of randomly called driving schools from a phone book until I found one that was cheap enough ($100) and that could schedule fairly quickly. And the car was kind of odd. It was a standard Ford Escort with a single steering wheel and no driving instructor brake. However, the horn was blown by pushing in the turn stalk horizontally towards the steering column. And a few times my instructor blew the horn when someone else was driving poorly, and he had to reach across the steering wheel to do it.

 

[Gumbo4x4]

I think you'd end up with the unintended consequence of a far higher rate of driving unlicensed and therefore uninsured if you did that. I don't know about where you live, but here the road tests have to be administered by a licensed third-party driving school and cost $75-100 (and I'm sure that price would increase further if every driver had to be tested every few years). For lower-income drivers and folks living paycheck-to-paycheck, that would be a real obstacle to renewing in a timely manner.

Our tests are administered by the State Patrol, no charge.

 

[Shmily1]

If only many of you knew the real history of the flag. It is quite interesting and doesn't represent what many make it out to represent. Personally, I think hating a flag is crazy. http://www.rulen.com/myths/

 

[declansdad]

If only many of you knew the real history of the flag. It is quite interesting and doesn't represent what many make it out to represent. Personally, I think hating a flag is crazy. http://www.rulen.com/myths/

That site doesn't exactly give you the feeling of being unbiased.

 

[sunshinehighway]

If only many of you knew the real history of the flag. It is quite interesting and doesn't represent what many make it out to represent. Personally, I think hating a flag is crazy. http://www.rulen.com/myths/

Yeah nothing says trustworthy like a site that automatically downloads a .mid file when you go to it.
Do not click that link unless you want a .mid of Amazing Grace downloaded without your permission.

 

[pryncess527]

Riddled with inaccuracies and no sources provided. "real" history indeed . . .

I don't "hate" the flag -- it's an inanimate object. I don't even hate people who fly it. If you think hating it is crazy, how is loving it any different? It's still a strong emotion about a piece of cloth, that quite frankly, represents a (thankfully) dead idea.