Just back: Issue 2 - call out line cheaters, or mind your own busines?

I usually keep quiet in ride queues. I don't like confrontation, either. My mom is someone who would loudly confront line jumpers and I've seen many ignore her and get defensive and nasty back to her at the time and throughout the rest of the wait. Not worth it to me when I'm going to spend x amount of time in the line near the jumpers.

Now, if we're waiting for a bus, I'm more likely to say something. If someone cuts in front of us I n a ride line, it's usually doesn't give us that much longer of a wait. But in a bus line, people cutting in front of us could mean we might not make it onto that bus and have to wait for another. That takes more out of my time than the ride line jumpers.

Last year my son and I were leaving MK at closing and were in a very long bus line for POP. A couple of teenage girls were in front of us. As we got close to the front, close enough to board the next bus, they waved to their friends and 8 other teens tried to join them. I said no way, the friends can wait like everyone else. They grumbled, but the friends didn't get in line. It was the end of a long day, we were tired and I had counted the people ahead of us to make sure DS and I would get a seat on the next bus. If I had let the kids cut in front of us, getting seats would've been iffy. That's probably the only type of situation where I'll say something.
 
This is what I call "people watching." Most people you encounter at Disney are very nice, non rule breakers. There will always be crude and rude, self absorb people, that feel they need to get ahead.
 
We live in a very self centered society. Politeness and common courtesy went out of fashion when "reality" TV came into fashion. Everyone wants to mimic the rude, narcissistic behaviors that they see on the Kardashians and the Real housewives shows. What was once outrageous behavior intended to generate ratings and provide shock value had sadly become the norm for a lot of people.

I don't think this is accurate or true. I am under 30 my cousin is graduating college this year and he is 21. It had nothing to do with reality TV, but how parents raise their kids. I didn't have to tell my 21 year old cousin he needs to give his seat in the bus to the elderly lady. He did it because that is how we were raised to be respectful (and no we were not spanked).

Every time I have encountered problems are always people older than us. In the bus case the parents were probably in their early 40's the daughter probably 12. But what do we expect here in the dis people start threads asking if the rules are being enforced if not they will let their kids take advantage of it and even lie :sad2:.
 
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I sometimes have a hard time not saying what I want to say, but in general I tend to let things like that go. Here is the thing....if Disney is not going to enforce their own rules in the parks, my words to somebody else will be nothing less than a confrontation that starts a fight. It just isn't worth it.
 
I'm not confrontational, but if you catch me in the right mood I will make a sarcastic comment to my daughter LOUDLY like "Oh, honey... let them go ahead they're in a BIIIIG hurry!" Or "Ohhhh... I guess they were here first sweetie"... I usually get a sideways glance from the person, and they've been called out on being rude. I had a guy cut me with his daughter for the tea cups... I was like '... the tea cups... really?" We were at the front of the line with no wait.

What would you expect the CM to do, especially if they themselves didn't witness it? I don't expect the CM's to be the line police. I agree with PP that this is my vacation, and I'm not going to let rude people get me worked up.
 
Typically I won't say anything. One time I did speak up wasn't when people were cutting. It was in the single rider line for The Mummy. The people were told many times that it was the single rider line but of course they tried to pull the we didn't know act and saying that one of their party (a group of people in their mid 20s) was afraid to ride alone. Normally i don't care but they argued with the TM for so long that 3 loads of guests got on the ride while they were arguing. I heard them concocting their story the whole time in line so I spoke up because I wanted to get on the ride! When I told the TM she finally made them choose to split up or leave. They left.

Another time I spoke up was at Universal. A big group of people were waiting at the turnstile. Some of them had gone through already. One of them was having an issue entering and was arguing with them TM and causing a (planned) commotion. I say it was planned because while the TM was distracted they had one of their kids sneak into the park under the next turnstile over. Then another person who had already entered came to the gate and handed her phone to a lady still in line. She then turned around to face me, took the cover off the phone and pulled out a ticket. When the TM told her the ticket had just been used to enter she said she had gone in and then come right back out. I did speak up but the manager who had come over just let them in.
 
Line cutting was constant on our trip. I think I had just had enough and felt I had to say something. We were cut at least once a day. Basic manners are lost to many people in our society. Every time someone cut our line it was an older person, so we can't blame it on ignorant kids.
 
Threads like this are why I'm so glad my six flags has a number you can text to quietly report a description of line jumpers and security comes into line to find and confront them. It ends in removal from the park 9/10 times. Line jumping is a problem every trip we have at WDW, and even if you tell a CM they usually don't do anything about it.
 
I think the only line cutting we saw was with a large teen band group. We got in the line after a few of them and during the course of the line like 20 more of them had wiggled in front of us.
 
That stuff is annoying but I wouldn't have done anything. I've seen it happen a million times and I've been there when it has been clear cms have seen it too. I've never seen anyone do anything about it. I'm not the law of disney world and don't really care to get caught up in something like that.
 
I sometimes have a hard time not saying what I want to say, but in general I tend to let things like that go. Here is the thing....if Disney is not going to enforce their own rules in the parks, my words to somebody else will be nothing less than a confrontation that starts a fight. It just isn't worth it.

Pretty muchw here I'm at.

I'm the last person to hold back a snide comment or "better left unsaid" thought, but something like this I'd probably roll my eyes and carry on. If my kids said something I'd probably make some kind of remark, loud enough to be heard.
 
The most common form of line cutting that I'll see is
one or 2 people get in line while the rest of the group uses the rest room or something else. If it's just a short gap, I don;t mind. Some people really try to take advantage of this one though. They must be doing a couple rides and having a table service lunch then they try to slip in at the last minute. Then I will ask "Where you going?".
a real problem area for line cutting that I saw was at the orlando airport where you have to wait for that tram thing that takes you to the terminal. There's no organized line for that thing and many people butt in front of others for that one.
 
Every time this subject comes up, I think of something we saw in 2009:

We were standing in line to meet Mickey and a man about 5 rows back starts yelling at a lady in the row ahead of us, accusing her of cutting in line. He was clearly very proud of himself for calling her out. Here's the thing: She didn't cut in line - she had been there the whole time. I knew because I had passed her at least 10 times as we zig-zagged through the queue, a fact which I told him when he finally shut his mouth long enough to take a breath.

He was so sure that he was fighting the evil of line cutting, but he was really just acting like a huge jerk and yelling at a lady for absolutely no reason.
 
We had a woman cut in front of us at Pecos Bills this week. She came up and gave us this rude 'excuse me' and moved in front of us in the line. We just assumed she was with the person in front of us she was so blatant but when he ordered and the cast member asked what the woman would like he said 'She's not with me'.

My husband wanted to say something to her but I said she wasn't worth making us upset, and we should just let it go.

Now last year we had a man and woman cut in front of us for Buzz Lightyear when the queue went out the building. This man put his hand in my son to move him out of the way so they could go in front. I DID say something to him.

I figure for the most part line cutters could care less what people say anyway so it just makes me more upset to confront them, then to just put them out of my mind and not give them the space in my head.
 
I do always use it as a learning lesson and explain rather loudly to my child that what the person did was rude. I do that no matter where we are if someone acts in such a way.
 
I would say something or tell a cm. People like that think they are entitled to do whatever they want to do and they should be called out. Maybe if more people spoke up, they would stop doing it.
 

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