Jon and Kate Plus 8, Official Thread-Part 3

[3prettyprincesses]

You know, what I noticed on Monday's show was a difference in body language, especially Jon. I always felt he seemed anxious, like he was worried about what Kate would say next. He was sort of tentative in his movements. On Monday, he seemed to be physically calmer and more confident. More relaxed, despite everything that was going on.

Not the kids though. It was especially hard to see the twins scurrying around trying to help their mom. It felt like, oh no, we have to take over or mom will have a complete breakdown.

Teresa

That's how I read it too...Jon looked more relaxed in the way he was communicating but obviously sad and worn from all this mess.

I don't get why people don't understand why she was upset about Jon not being there to "help" with the party preparation. IMO, it was the fact that he simply left. She was very clear that they have help, so that wasn't really the issue, it was that he was ABSENT.

Are there really that many women out there that would really think it was okay if their husband just left for the weekend on an unplanned "getaway" during a weekend when you had family things already scheduled?

My husband travels for work and I was a SAHM. Honestly, I never once opted out of a child's birthday party preparation when he got back because I was tired of being home alone with the kids. I might have laid down for a nap and had him do the shopping or something, but leaving for the weekend?

Jon was away becasue he needed a weekend off? Sorry jon, you dont get a weekend off from being a parent and husband. Especially when his children were having a bday party and left kate to do it all without him. Sory this changes my opinion of jon(for the worse) and what was he doing on his weekend away?

Let's remember that Kate had been away for many days up until the day before the party. So who do you think was in charge? We've seen the pictures of Jon taking the kids to preschool too.

Kate didn't do it all. Geez, all she did was fill up 4 pinatas and a bunch of treat bags. Big deal. When she got to the actual party, she had many helpers who she told what to set up where. I know when I plan a b-day for one of my girls, I do way more than Kate did.

So, parents aren't allowed a weekend away? What about Mom retreats or Dad fishing trips?

 

[SaraJayne]

Discuss your opinions all you want. But expect others to disagree.

I think people are assuming an awful lot by declaring that Kate does nto want to spend any time with her kids, etc. & etc.

If Kate wanted to be home, she'd be home. They make plenty of money without her "having" to travel all over the country.

And when she said she was called the babysitter's name, I didn't feel one bit sorry for her.

 

[BoardWalkBelle]

I noticed the high chairs but i think they are in high chairs becasue the table is tall and if the kids sat in regular chairs, the kids couldnt reach the table.

 

[madge]

Thnks, you are the only person who would even reply to me on this one. I was starting to think everyone had me on their ignore list.

I didn't answer, because I didn't know .. LOL

 

[SaraJayne]

Jon was away becasue he needed a weekend off? Sorry jon, you dont get a weekend off from being a parent and husband. Especially when his children were having a bday party and left kate to do it all without him. Sory this changes my opinion of jon(for the worse) and what was he doing on his weekend away?

I have weekends off from being a parent and a wife a few times a year, and my DH gets time away from us, too.

Everyone deserves a break.

 

[Mouse House Mama]

The one thing that sticks out in my head is Kate saying over and over "I love what I am doing!" and not even acknowledging that Jon does not no matter how he tried to articulate it to her. Regardless of the job status etc. maybe he wanted her home alone. No cameras. No crew. No touring. Just them as a family free to do as they please even if that means a whole lot of nothing.

 

[MichelleVW]

OMG - thats really sad.

I was watching the episode from Disney, when Kate totally freeked because one of the girls got ice cream on her outfit. They were doing the interview at home, and one of the producers asked her if she thinks she over-reacted.... With a totaly straight face, she was like "No, I don't think so at all."

Uh...I'm on the side of the fence that doesn't think she freaked out any more than I would have given the same set of circumstances.... My kids still talk about the time my camera batteries died in the park...

 

[madge]

Okay, There was a blonde lady at the party who looked just like Beth. Her hair was a little longer now then the last time Beth was showing.

Carla? She's one of the helpers that's been around for a while.

 

[madge]

Hey, they don't have the bibs anymore so we are happy...

 

[ireland_nicole]

That's how I read it too...Jon looked more relaxed in the way he was communicating but obviously sad and worn from all this mess.





Let's remember that Kate had been away for many days up until the day before the party. So who do you think was in charge? We've seen the pictures of Jon taking the kids to preschool too.

Kate didn't do it all. Geez, all she did was fill up 4 pinatas and a bunch of treat bags. Big deal. When she got to the actual party, she had many helpers who she told what to set up where. I know when I plan a b-day for one of my girls, I do way more than Kate did.

So, parents aren't allowed a weekend away? What about Mom retreats or Dad fishing trips?

Most of the parents I know would not be so selfish as to check out the weekend of my kid's birthday party.

The one thing that sticks out in my head is Kate saying over and over "I love what I am doing!" and not even acknowledging that Jon does not no matter how he tried to articulate it to her. Regardless of the job status etc. maybe he wanted her home alone. No cameras. No crew. No touring. Just them as a family free to do as they please even if that means a whole lot of nothing.

Not you specifically, but I'm hearing stuff like this from a lot of moms on this board. I happen to be a SAHM, but I assure you, I am not a better mom then my friends who work, either by necessity or "choice." Since when does holding a job= being a terrible mother who doesn't love her kids?

And remember, Kate was the SAHM until this past year. So yes, working is new, and she loves it- is that a crime? She didn't get to say, this wasn't my choice, it was chosen for me, etc. etc. She did what she had to do. Why can't Jon man up and be part of a solution if he doesn't like what he's doing?

Finally, I agree that letting this all continue to play out on tv is just sad; what this family clearly needs is some time out of the spotlight.

 

[OhMari]

It was a sad show,
but the last minute was confusing.
Jon was home barbecueing, and telling Aiden he was cooking worms.
Then they were all eating outside on the deck on the picnic table.
Kate asked Jon if he wanted her to put fruit on his plate,
and he said, 'no"
"no, um just leave it, I'll do it."

After all the crying and the seperate interviews,
it felt like,
"we will go on, and the show will go on".
What is more normal, than cooking a meal and eating with your family.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

Most of the parents I know would not be so selfish as to check out the weekend of my kid's birthday party.

Jon was at the party though...

 

[madge]

And remember, Kate was the SAHM until this past year. So yes, working is new, and she loves it- is that a crime? She didn't get to say, this wasn't my choice, it was chosen for me, etc. etc. She did what she had to do.

Jon quit his job 2 years ago... the show became their job/life not soon after that. And she didn't get to say this wasn't my choice .. because the show and her new life is her choice.

Why can't Jon man up and be part of a solution if he doesn't like what he's doing?

we don't know that he hasn't.

 

[DVCisME]

Maybe when Jon said he was away for the weekend, and then told the kids daddy had to work. Maybe he was writing his tell all book...j/k!

 

[eyeheartgoofy]

Jon was away becasue he needed a weekend off? Sorry jon, you dont get a weekend off from being a parent and husband. Especially when his children were having a bday party and left kate to do it all without him. Sory this changes my opinion of jon(for the worse) and what was he doing on his weekend away?

From what I understand, Jon and Kate are basically never in the home together anymore. Kate was traveling all week, so Jon was at home with the kids. When Kate got home, Jon left and Kate stayed home with the kids. And, when Kate goes back on the road, Jon goes back home with the kids. Kind of like a custody arrangement without the courts involvement ... it was Kate's weekend, so Jon stayed away ... except to come to his kids' birthday party.

Jon and Kate aren't together.

 

[3prettyprincesses]

OK, so I'm watching the Duggars waiting for DH to get back from Blockbuster with our movie!) and noticed all of the old crew from J&K there. Interesting that they now are all working elsewhere, makes me think about what Kevin & Jodi said about the crew leaving due to them finding it difficult to listen to all the fighting and then portray the family a certain way for the show.

 

[madge]

It was a sad show,
but the last minute was confusing.
Jon was home barbecueing, and telling Aiden he was cooking worms.
Then they were all eating outside on the deck on the picnic table.
Kate asked Jon if he wanted her to put fruit on his plate,
and he said, 'no"
"no, um just leave it, I'll do it."

After all the crying and the seperate interviews,
it felt like,
"we will go on, and the show will go on".
What is more normal, than cooking a meal and eating with your family.

ding ding ding! we have a winn-ah!

 

[eyeheartgoofy]

Did anyone catch the old episode of Jon and Kate that was on this afternoon? They went to a pumpkin patch. During the armchair interview (it was old b/c Jon has his arm wrapped around Kate and they were touching), Jon actually said that he appreciated what Kate did at home b/c there was no way in the world he would ever want to stay home all day, every day.

So, fast forward two years, and Jon is staying home every day.

 

[happygirl]

Carla? She's one of the helpers that's been around for a while.

Maybe that this lady looked alot like Beth

 

[1stluvispooh]

Has anyone thought that she made him leave before the party. He had been there with the kids while she was gone and now she is back and she may not want him there and then she played the victim for the camera's

Ugh yep yep I did