Where do you think DVC resale prices are headed?

Below are the approximate averages from 3/31, 4/15, 4/30, 5/15 and 5/31 for each resort for reduced contracts The data used is from the 2 largest resellers

The sample size for many resorts is getting small, also 1 or 2 contracts that are more than 20 above the average are impacting the averages



Reduced

……3/31 4/15 4/30 5/15 5/31



AKV 110 109 109 104 ND

AUL 97 93 92 96 93

BLT 144 146 146 145 145

BCV 138 137 140 142 143

BWV 118 118 116 114 113

BRV 100 ND 94 94 94

CCV 148 150 150 148 148

VGF 168 168 168 168 166

HH 74 74 74 74 73

OKW 95 94 93 93 92

POLY 143 144 144 144 142

SS 102 98 101 101 102

VB 62 62 63 63 65
 
Below are the approximate averages from 3/31, 4/15, 4/30, 5/15 and 5/31 for each resort for pending contracts The data used is from the 2 largest resellers

Since the variance between pending numbers and actual selling price si large, these should be viewed for their trend value whereas the sale prices from the ROFR threads and other sources are likely more useful for setting offer levels

Pending

……3/31 4/15 4/30 5/15 5/31



AKV 109 108 109 109 109

AUL 96 97 97 96 97

BLT 137 141 144 143 143

BCV 140 138 140 140 138

BWV 118 121 121 120 119

BRV 98 98 97 97 98

CCV 147 147 150 151 151

VGF 164 163 161 163 165

HH 75 76 75 78 76

OKW 93 93 93 92 94

POLY 146 146 146 146 146

SS 101 101 102 102 101

VB 71 67 67 67 68
 
6/1 new contract levels updated on post 1 and are below

These represent the averages from 5/16 to 5/31

Total count of new contracts for the 5 sites is 199 (135 for 4/1 to 4/15)

actuals in (###)

.........3/20 .....4/1 ............5/1... ....6/1 .…7/1 8/1 9/1

AKV 114 110(107) 105(110) 100(109) 96 92 90

AUL 101 98(97) 95(98) 90(96) 85 82 80

BLT 150 140(147) 135(144) 130(152*) 128 124 124

BCV 147 145(150) 140(143) 135(143) 132 130 128

BWV 126 120(120) 115(120) 110(121) 106 103 100

BRV 100 95(100) 90(96) 85(103) 80 76 72

CCV 155 150(150) 142(155) 136(152) 125 125

VGF 177 172(170) 168(163) 165(171) 162 160 158

HH 81 78(76) 72(77) 68(71) 65 62 60

OKW 102 97(101) 90(104) 84(109) 78 72 70

POLY 148 142(131) 136(136) 130(148*) 125 120 120

SS 106 100(105) 94(100) 88(103) 85 82 80

VB 67 64(68) 60(64) 56(66) 52 50 48



*over 50% less than 100 pts

With the exception of OKW, BLT and Poly most significant increases were from a single contract at 30%+ above average
 
6/1 new contract levels updated on post 1 and are below

These represent the averages from 5/16 to 5/31

Total count of new contracts for the 5 sites is 199 (135 for 4/1 to 4/15)

actuals in (###)

.........3/20 .....4/1 ............5/1... ....6/1 .…7/1 8/1 9/1

AKV 114 110(107) 105(110) 100(109) 96 92 90

AUL 101 98(97) 95(98) 90(96) 85 82 80

BLT 150 140(147) 135(144) 130(152*) 128 124 124

BCV 147 145(150) 140(143) 135(143) 132 130 128

BWV 126 120(120) 115(120) 110(121) 106 103 100

BRV 100 95(100) 90(96) 85(103) 80 76 72

CCV 155 150(150) 142(155) 136(152) 125 125

VGF 177 172(170) 168(163) 165(171) 162 160 158

HH 81 78(76) 72(77) 68(71) 65 62 60

OKW 102 97(101) 90(104) 84(109) 78 72 70

POLY 148 142(131) 136(136) 130(148*) 125 120 120

SS 106 100(105) 94(100) 88(103) 85 82 80

VB 67 64(68) 60(64) 56(66) 52 50 48



*over 50% less than 100 pts

With the exception of OKW, BLT and Poly most significant increases were from a single contract at 30%+ above average
I’ve been watching this since the start and what seemed to happen is that a ton of small contracts (100ish pts) sold instantly (eating up availability and keeping average prices the same) while the larger ones are sticking around. New postings for larger contracts (200+ pts) have definitely started decreasing in price, especially this past week.

It will be interesting to watch how this trend continues.
 


I understand your point but I didn’t cancel my trip. They did. That puts the burden of doing the right thing on them. If I had canceled the trip I would expect not a thing in return I now the rules. That’s not the case. They canceled my trip. I agree they are offering till February ie “ that’s when they expire” but that puts the burden of booking a trip in the school year on me and my kids. Since when have you heard of Disney canceling a two week trip. Never is my guess. I am not asking for some far out thing.
So if I don’t get those points for next summers trip I will be bitter and at every turn I will drain money from Disney at every opportunity. Ie steak wrong in the slightest I send back. Drink wrong in slightest I send back, I will be that customer who is bitter till I feel no-longer used.
Call me petty, that’s fine I work hard for my time on vacation and they in affect stole from me and my family so I will return the favor.

So what's wrong with the rest of this summer???

I understand disappointment, but you have other options for your points.
 
So if I don’t get those points for next summers trip I will be bitter and at every turn I will drain money from Disney at every opportunity. Ie steak wrong in the slightest I send back. Drink wrong in slightest I send back, I will be that customer who is bitter till I feel no-longer used.
Call me petty, that’s fine I work hard for my time on vacation and they in affect stole from me and my family so I will return the favor.
I understand your frustration. There are hundreds, if not thousands of members who are affected in ways similar to your situation. Some made out better than others by luck; others by virtue of how they positioned their risk assumptions with how they used their points.

If nothing else, this pandemic should drive home to every owner and prospective owner that unless you bought a guaranteed week, Disney’s timeshare guarantees nothing but the opportunity to book your home resort one month before non-home owners. It does not guarantee banking or borrowing (and in fact explicitly reserves the right to suspend these options). It does not guarantee pools, restaurants, gyms, spas, monorails, or any of the theme parks for that matter.

This was an often repeated mantra of those who remind potential buyers that all they are buying is a timeshare, but most dismissed it saying, “if there were no theme park, we’d all have bigger problems.”

Today, even with "bigger problems" (trading my kid's healthy social development with soul-crushing homeschooling anyone?), people will still take issue with their timeshare for things that were never guaranteed to them under the Public Offering Statement that they agreed to when they bought their Disney timeshare.

@Bondo9, come February 28, 2021 you will have had three years to use the points that you are are being asked to use some time the nine months. That's a luxury compared to a lot of other owners. As an owner, you assume ownership risks in exchange for cost savings over time. While you did not choose to shut down the park or cancel your reservation, you did choose to not use your points two years prior (understanding the inherent risks in that). And given your limited ability to travel (summer's only), you essentially booked in the last three months of your use opportunities.

I can see the desire to try to get back at Disney as you outlined above, but that's a lot of cutting off your nose to spite your face, it seems. Also sounds like a pretty unpleasant, and at Disney prices - expensive, way to spend one’s hard earned money and probably much needed vacation time.

At this point, they have you on the hook for Annual Dues for the rest of your contract RTU. Maybe this is a good opportunity to re-evaluate if a Disney timeshare is a good fit for you?
 
6/1 new contract levels and sales data updated on post 1 and are below

These represent the averages from 5/16 to 5/31

Total count of new contracts for the 5 sites is 199 (135 for 4/1 to 4/15)

actuals in (###)

I have added average actual selling price for April from DIS ROFR [] and April for the resller {} that posts actual selling price each month. The second number in OKW ROFR data is 2057

I have added partial numbers for DIS ROFR for May and the reseller data for May

Again here is the format for listed under 5/1 for April and 6/1 for May: Guess(New listings)[DIS ROFR][Reseller}

.........3/20 .....4/1 ............5/1 ...6/1 …7/1 8/1 9/1

AKV 114 110(107) 105(110)[104]{104} 100(109)[104]{105} 96 92 90

AUL 101 98(97) 95(98)[83]{93} 90(96)[ND]{95} 85 82 80

BLT 150 140(147) 135(144)[145]{144} 130(152*)[138]{141} 128 124 124

BCV 147 145(150) 140(143)[132]{141} 135(143)[ND]{144} 132 130 128

BWV 126 120(120) 115(120)[119]{116} 110(121)[110]{116} 106 103 100

BRV 100 95(100) 90(96)[92]{106} 85(103)[98]{97} 80 76 72

CCV 155 150(150) 142(155)[132][146} 136(152)[139]{147} 125 125

VGF 177 172(170) 168(163)[149]{157} 165(171)[155]{161} 162 160 158

HH 81 78(76) 72(77)[ND]{75} 68(71)[ND]{71} 65 62 60

OKW 102 97(101) 90(104)[83/100]{98} 84(109)[ND/96} {93} 78 72 70

POLY 148 142(131) 136(136)[133]{137} 130(148*)[132]{140} 125 120 120

SS 106 100(105) 94(100)[96]{98} 88(103)[92]{98} 85 82 80

VB 67 64(68) 60(64)[ND]{63} 56(66)[63]66} 52 50 48



*over 50% less than 100 pts

With the exception of OKW, BLT and Poly most significant increases were from a single contract at 30%+ above average
 
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6/3 update

number of newly posted resale contracts at about 250-270% of average*

* Aggregating site is not updating so lower level is directly observed, upper level includes what is would typically only observed through the aggregating site.
 
Prices overall look to be holding steady on aggregate. Some up and some down, which is pretty remarkable with ZERO ROFR action and the economic environment.

Anyone notice the huge average price increase on VGC?? $185 in April 2020 and now $214 for May 2020. :earsboy:
They only sell 1-2 a month I think usually for VGC; I only tracked 2 contracts on their site in May and they both had all 2019 points banked and all 2020 points.
 
I could have flown to Europe and gotten a steak at somewhere much better for what I spent on my last Disney trip.

Ha this is exactly why it is so hard for me to go to WDW sometimes. The cost is immense so I always end up weighing it vs. the other options. It's amazing what experiences you sacrifice to go to WDW (this sacrifice particularly ramps with each subsequent trip).
 
They only sell 1-2 a month I think usually for VGC; I only tracked 2 contracts on their site in May and they both had all 2019 points banked and all 2020 points.
I don't think sales of the low single digits per month is all that unusual for them for VGC, but the $29 increase is very much an outlier for the past 12 months.

Still, 1 month does not make a trend and will be interesting to see where it goes in the next few months. There is an extremely short supply for any VGC right now anywhere and I am not aware of a single resale contract available at the present time.
 
Prices overall look to be holding steady on aggregate. Some up and some down, which is pretty remarkable with ZERO ROFR action and the economic environment.

Anyone notice the huge average price increase on VGC?? $185 in April 2020 and now $214 for May 2020. :earsboy:
Their average price they are reporting doesn’t really track with what we have seen in the ROFR thread. We haven’t even seen a spike in the amount of buys reported. I know that thread is only a small subset of buyers, but you would think there would be some correlation.
 
Their average price they are reporting doesn’t really track with what we have seen in the ROFR thread. We haven’t even seen a spike in the amount of buys reported. I know that thread is only a small subset of buyers, but you would think there would be some correlation.
The prices they are reporting are the LISTED prices, however. Not what the contracts actually sold for.
 
Their average price they are reporting doesn’t really track with what we have seen in the ROFR thread. We haven’t even seen a spike in the amount of buys reported. I know that thread is only a small subset of buyers, but you would think there would be some correlation.

Buyer here tend to more concerned with getting a good deal, so I would bet that the average from the ROFR thread here is lower than what non-Disboard members pay on average.
 
The prices they are reporting are the LISTED prices, however. Not what the contracts actually sold for.
I don't think that's right. I've been tracking listed prices as they sell and I have the average listing price at sale for DVC Resale Market higher for May. For example, I have SSR at $102 average listed price at sale, they have average selling price at $98. I have Poly at $143 average listing price at sale, they have it at $140 average selling price. I'm sure I missed some contracts that were listed and sold between 2 checks, but its a pretty consistent pattern.

Also, they say that it's the sale price.
 
I don't think that's right. I've been tracking listed prices as they sell and I have the average listing price at sale for DVC Resale Market higher for May. For example, I have SSR at $102 average listed price at sale, they have average selling price at $98. I have Poly at $143 average listing price at sale, they have it at $140 average selling price. I'm sure I missed some contracts that were listed and sold between 2 checks, but its a pretty consistent pattern.

Also, they say that it's the sale price.
I would have to research this to know for sure, but I think a higher number of small contract sales are making the average price look higher than it actually is for your typical contract. It has appeared to me that the volume of small point contracts sold has really picked up over the last few weeks and while these are going for less than they used to they still are selling at a premium compared to other contracts.
 
I would have to research this to know for sure, but I think a higher number of small contract sales are making the average price look higher than it actually is for your typical contract. It has appeared to me that the volume of small point contracts sold has really picked up over the last few weeks and while these are going for less than they used to they still are selling at a premium compared to other contracts.
Based on my casual observation, I agree with this. Larger contracts seem to be sitting around while small contracts move quickly. However, I will say that the strong sales volume does defy my expectations. I am less sure that prices will continue to slide than I was 3-4 weeks ago. There is a downward trend in prices over the past year, for sure. But whether that will continue and accelerate remains to be seen.
 
Their average price they are reporting doesn’t really track with what we have seen in the ROFR thread. We haven’t even seen a spike in the amount of buys reported. I know that thread is only a small subset of buyers, but you would think there would be some correlation.
I would have far less confidence in the ROFR thread here than the official broker results, though it does not mean it does not have any value. It is human nature to celebrate the good and downplay the bad. Anyone that knows they "overpaid" or was on the high end of the spectrum on a resale transaction is not very likely to post it there. Prime anecdotal evidence is when people tell you how they did pressing their luck at the casino.
 

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