Discussion in 'Theme Parks Community' started by SCSteve, Jan 10, 2018.
I dont understand why WDW has not adopted the Maxpass system that DL has. Looks to be simpler.
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Can anyone confirm something for me? I read in another post that someone was told the extra fast passes can be booked 90 days from their check OUT day..... was anyone else told this? I was told to call back tomorrow and I can book everything but tomorrow is 90 days from my check in day
I am super annoyed for this exact reason! We originally had a bounce back booked for 8 nights in April at CR concierge level, theme park view. The bounce back gave us a 30% discount, such that it was actually cheaper than a non concierge level room, for which no discounts have yet been offered.
Just LAST WEEK, we decided to bite the bullet and change to a BLT 1 bd villa, theme park view, specifically so we could have the kitchen and laundry for our toddler. We are paying cash, rack rate (I’ve never seen BLT offered at a discount). The cost difference is more than $300 per night, so we are paying lots more than we would have if we had stuck with concierge. The extra fast passes are something we would have considered, and I’m annoyed that villa guests aren’t included!
I agree that not all CL guests will use this, my opinion is that a lot of CL guests are getting that room for the status, to be able to tell their friends they are getting CL, and to possibly eat some meals in the lounge to make up for the cost. The fastpasses would just be an expensive add on that not everyone would use. I know if it was me with 4 people, I would rather stay another night than spend $600 for more fastpasses.
90 days from checkout date is correct.
It is definitely counted from check out day which I have no idea how that makes sense.
You have to actually stay on the phone for about 20 to 30 minutes and book the fast passes with the person on the phone in addition you get nighttime preferred seating view for each day that you booked the additional fast passes
Do ppl really book CL for the status?? I’ve never heard of this. Anyone that I’ve known who has done it was for the amenities. We didn’t do it b/c we aren’t in the room to use it.
It was a reply to me, where I said something along the lines of there are some people who will choose to buy this and some who won't. At the time he said no, he "can't" but later went on to clarify that he's just choosing to take more cheaper trips vs fewer expensive trips. It's semantics. Obviously there's a choice and tradeoff involved.
Yes, check-OUT day. I would reverse-engineer this to mean that CMs can put these FPs in up to 90 days out, and so as to be able to enter them on 3 of your stay days, it would not make sense to begin this process on your check-in day because only 1 day would be eligible at that time. Don't worry about a thing of course... whether you do this tomorrow or in a week you'll get everything you want. The only reason to do it now is because you're anxious and it's fun.
Just booked CL for Nov, hopefully this is still available during my stay.
this is crazy but norm surprising, i wonder if Disney will be extending this to other resorts/ levels eventually!
It is simpler, but WDW isn't likely to adopt it anytime soon due to two words: sunk costs. They spent over a billion implementing MDE and MagicBands (including all the advance FP stuff), and aren't about to throw in the towel on a big part of that (at least not yet). Additionally, as others have pointed out in the past, DL and its Maxpass rely on a same-day, in-park FP system. As a predominantly locals park, that makes more sense in DL. At WDW (which has more guests traveling from distant locations), the advance FPs are a way for those guests to more easily plan their trips.
Unlike other advance FPs for resort guests (60+10 days), they're not giving extra days to book based on the beginning of the stay (i.e., no one is getting 90+10 days). They work backwards to do them all at once - otherwise (as a PP noted), you'd have to call back every day starting at 90 days from check-in (side note: unlike the 60+10 day FPs, guests with shorter stays have an "advantage" over guests with longer stays checking in on the same dates - although it's such a small pool that it's probably negligible). The requirement to do all this on the telephone also suggests that the existing FP system via MDE hasn't been fully changed to handle these FPs, so everything must be done manually or with overrides (it reminds me of the anytime / any ride FPs that are assigned to MDE accounts when you have a FP for a ride that's closed during your FP window). Since this is a pilot program, I'm assuming they didn't want to make those changes to the system until there's something permanent.
That was my post and yes. After upgrading to CL I called signature services and was advised it’s 90 days from checkout so you can book your whole stay instead of having to log on every day. And another poster said they book them for you on the phone but I asked more than once if they are added to MDE and was assured they are added so I have time to plan out my vacation instead of making hasty decisions on the phone.
Vacationing only once or twice per decade, just to stay in far more expensive hotel rooms, would be an absurd choice. I like to do things that actually make sense.
Where I think you may be in error is referencing how many CL guests will use this. What you've failed to factor in are how many will book CL because of this. We wouldn't book CL at Disney because, well frankly it isn't truly CL when compared to real world resorts and we would simply be let down. So no chance of doing so until...well now we'd book club just for this benefit. For our upcoming trip in April I already tried to change our ressie and couldn't.
This new program suits our touring style perfectly. Dh and I spend somewhere between 4-6 hours max in a park on a given day. We therefore miss many of the top tier attractions because we wont spend 2 or 3 hours waiting in lines. This would allow us to do what we want in the least amount of time possible.
I expect that although our travel style may not suit others , there will be a fair number of people who will find this suits there own travel requirements and who until now chose not to stay in club level but will be in the future.
It might make sense to others. It’s stilll YOUR choice. Bottom line is there are ppl this appeals to & that doesn’t necessarily mean their “rich”.
MaxPass is awesome! My guess is that even if WDW had MaxPass it wouldn't be as satisfying an experience. There is no system that will magically increase the ride capacity for a day at Magic Kingdom versus a day at Disneyland, for example. That's because MK enjoys higher attendance on average and has fewer queued attractions to serve those crowds.
FP, FP+, and MaxPass don't change the laws of capacity... they merely ration it in different ways. Technically, FP+ can do everything MaxPass does, plus pre-book 3 reservations. MaxPass only lets guests do more because the actual wait times at Disneyland are shorter on average, so that your 5th, 6th, 7th, etc. FP are easier to get and were easier to get even when both coasts were on regular FP systems. That's how it appears to me anyway. Would be curious to see if anyone has other thoughts.
Ok thank you ... this is where all the uncertainty comes in because the CM at DSS that I talked to told me it was 90 days from check in and to call back today (Saturday) to book everything ... no worries, what’s an extra 10 days!!! Lol
I called and was told 90 from checkout and they are supposed to call me next week when I'm eligible to book.
We decided to book this because we are only staying 4 nights. I had booked EMM, a GG pre park opening breakfast, a BOG ppo breakfast, and a HEA dessert party and buying these extra FPs will now cost less than all that so I will be canceling those. And now we can sleep a bit later and take our time in the mornings in the lounge instead of being RDers like we usually are. My boys (16) are psyched but said they still may want to do that one morning.
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