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  1. GoofyFan1515

    GoofyFan1515 DIS Dad #174

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    Agree! :thumbsup2 We got to ride it a few times on our recent trip. I thought it was better than the ToT version but maybe that's because it was new and different. :scratchin

    Not sure Mark will agree. I know how much he loves ToT. :rotfl2:
     
  2. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    I don't know if there's a feeling quite like a kid being set free at Disney World. It is pretty wonderful.

    Yep, first time! They had a blast doing their own thing. It's fun for Julie and me to see how well they get along together.

    Poor kid. We'll just have to try again sometime.

    That's what I was worried about. The scream is loud and seeing a body hanging above you is pretty dark for a Disney ride.

    I think you mean Mmmmm...

    Thanks!

    ::yes::

    But they suddenly show up again when I get back home!

    Darn right.

    Still not seeing any drawbacks to this idea.

    :headache:

    That's not how the Force works!

    Me too. So you need repeat rides once you get the hang of it.

    :confused3 Got me there. Maybe it was in the works before the movie came out, and they overestimated what the reaction would be?

    And I'm fine with "pretty good". But the hijinks were what made us want to come back.

    YES! More for you!

    Thanks!

    I figured out a better technique this last time around, but more on that later.

    Not a cheesesteak fan?
     
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  4. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    I could listen to a lot of Disney music all day long...but I would still skip IASW.

    Seems like a consensus.

    Overall, I'm glad they have the boards. But it's hard to remember that the time given is only an estimation.

    I figure that will happen often enough anyway. It's still better than the bag check line.

    :thumbsup2

    I think it might lose something. Part of the fun of this one is that it was totally spontaneous!

    All in all, it was a successful day!

    Hey, there are plenty of people who love it. I'm just not one of them.

    I didn't have a problem with FOP. I thought it looked great.

    :crazy2:

    Competitive much?

    True, the secrets are out there for anyone to look up. And yes, I did know those tips--my strategy was more to memorize where the high-point targets were and concentrate on hitting them as many times as I could.

    I'm glad to hear it! It wasn't the same without the fun.

    :goodvibes

    I have simple tastes, too, so I was fine with it. And yes, it was one of the less-expensive dinners.

    Any excuse for a poop joke, that's what I say!

    I would tell you, but I don't want any candy to disappear.

    ::yes::

    :sad1:

    Always.

    No, it was still ToT. And did they remove the 13-story drops? That would help my attitude.

    I have to admit, the Guardians re-do does look fun.
     
  5. GoofyFan1515

    GoofyFan1515 DIS Dad #174

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    Altitude helps attitude? Amazing the difference one letter can make :)
     
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  6. pkondz

    pkondz . . Dis Dad #797 . . Hoping to get lucky

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    Disney needs to fix that.

    Nope!

    I wish we all had that.
    Then everyone would be choking everyone else.

    Yep. Can see that.

    That movie is almost 25 years old. You'd think after the first week or so, they'd be... "Ummm… maybe that wasn't such a good idea. What else we got?"

    ::yes::
     
  7. QueenJen

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    I was skeptical - took me a looonnnng time to be excited to ride ToT. Between the music, bouncing, and what you are watching, it's alot of fun....but the drops are still there.
     
  8. SoccerDogWithEars

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    I don't dislike them. But they don't do a whole lot for me.

    If I am going to have one, I want actual cheese, and a lot of places here call it a cheesesteak and use the nasty liquid nacho cheese
     
  9. MImommy

    MImommy Earning My Ears

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    Following! This might be the funniest and most honest trip report I have ever read. Do you remember what brand stroller you brought with you? My older boys don’t need a sit and stand anymore but our four year still needs something. I hate renting and would rather just buy a stroller for our next trip.
     
  10. docsoliday1

    docsoliday1 DIS Dad #834 Cubs, Dolphins fan forever

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    I'm with you. The "official" Philly cheese steak as I understand it is made with cheese whiz and I don't care for that either. I like steak and provolone or motzarella of both.
     
  11. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Yes! It certainly makes me less likely to shell out for the dining plan.

    This is like when I wish cars had laser cannons mounted on the front of them. It's not long before I realize someone would have used it on me, too.

    Yeah, I can't explain that one at all. Then again, they kept churning out Police Academy movies, too.

    I watched a ride video on Youtube, and it does look like a lot of fun...you know, except for the drop part.

    We'll have to get you a proper Philly cheesesteak someday. I actually prefer mine with real cheese as well. American or provolone is best.

    :welcome: aboard, and thanks!

    I honestly don't remember what kind of stroller it is. It's whatever we had for the last few years while Drew was growing up. It was one of the ones that was big enough to put the infant car seat in. I hated having to fold it up and carry it on the bus, but we definitely needed it to get Drew around the parks. He would have been exhausted otherwise.

    I like real cheese better, too. Most places in Philly will offer you either Whiz, American or provolone.
     
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  12. franandaj

    franandaj I'm so happy, I could BOUNCE!

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    Geez....I was 2 updates behind. I've been sick and I'm finally feeling better enough that I can go back to posting from my phone.

    There are worse....

    I never visited Disney as a child, I didn't get there until I was a teenager.

    This was actually my first experience with Disney.

    Good thing I carry credit cards and not cash, I don't have nickels in my pockets for them to squeeze out!

    That makes sense, I mean the nuance of Epcot may go over the head of a four year old hell bent on riding stuff.

    It makes sense when you put it that way.

    Yes the ever changing bus stop signs, it's even worse when all of a sudden the time just disappears from the screen, like the bus on it's way vanished into another dimension!

    That's perfect! You are going to have such great things to embarrass him with his future wife!

    That's pretty neat! Now I want to ride it again just cause I know that!

    :rotfl2: :rotfl: :lmao:

    Yay Drew!

    Same, it's cute but i wouldn't wait a tremendous amount of time for it.

    :laughing:

    That's where the accessible seats are, so I've always seen it from the back.

    ::yes::

    :laughing:

    Very thrifty! I'm sure lots of other families do that too!

    She's definitely talented!

    I think I've seen a very similar picture of him, just younger. He looks so peaceful.

    Nah, just let him figure it out while he's on the ride.
     
  13. pkondz

    pkondz . . Dis Dad #797 . . Hoping to get lucky

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    Someone???

    Hey! Those are classics.
     
  14. SoccerDogWithEars

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    Provolone please!

    I did have a cheesesteak while in Philadelphia. I don't remember where it was from though. I remember thinking it was good but not amazing.

    If I ever make my way up north, I'll take you up on that!
     
  15. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Yuck. I'm sorry you haven't been feeling well!

    Yes, I covered that. :rotfl2:

    But I bet you still have fond memories of that.

    So, are you saying you only visit 2 versions of Disney?

    :rotfl: They seem plenty happy to take your credit card as well!

    To be fair, his Dad is hell-bent on riding stuff, too.:rolleyes1

    Oh, good! That beats the alternative.

    :scared1: It turned into a Tardis!

    ::yes:: Don't think I haven't thought of that.

    Wow, it's not often I get to spring a Disney tidbit on you!

    It was a great ride for Drew.

    Gotcha. Did anything seem fuzzy to you?

    Aw, and here I thought I'd figured out a secret trick.

    Love that girl.

    This one? From Disneyland?

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    Stay tuned...

    Yes, one. Singular. Why do you ask?:rolleyes1

    Homer Simpson, to Bart: "We live in a society of laws. Why do you think I took you to all those Police Academy movies? For fun??? Well, I didn't hear anybody laughing. Did you???"

    Quality can vary, even in Philadelphia. My favorite one is actually in Delaware!
     
  16. Captain_Oblivious

    Captain_Oblivious DIS Dad #257

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    Chapter 4: If It Ain’t Broke…


    For several years now, Epcot has been my family’s favorite park. This may come as a shock to you, but I’m going to share a secret: we’re all nerds. The idea of getting a window into the next great technological advances of society always gets us excited. Plus, we love to travel, and a Disney World vacation is still ever-so-slightly less expensive than flying six people to Asia, so the World Showcase appeals to our adventurous side. Add them together, and we are the target audience for Epcot. It hits us in both of our sweet spots.


    However, several of the biggest attractions had undergone changes since we’d last visited as a family. We were all curious to see the new versions of Soarin’ and Mission: Space, as well as the new Frozen ride. Would we still love Epcot as much this time around?


    You know the drill by now: scarf down nutritious Pop Tarts for breakfast, drink crappy hotel room coffee, pile into the minivan, arrive at Epcot in time for Rope Drop. The plan went without a hitch. Once the park was opened, we walked with every single person who was present at Epcot at that moment over to get in the line for Test Track.


    This was due to the ever-popular Tier system for Fast Passes. You can only have a FP for one of Test Track, Soarin’, or Frozen Ever After. I had been mistaken in thinking that having a FP for Test Track means you get an abbreviated car design experience, and I knew my boys would want the full show. So I had reserved FP’s for Soarin’ instead, and planned to hit Test Track first thing in the morning, which is the best the standby line would be all day. The tiers are certainly a frustration when it comes to the FP system. I do understand the idea that everyone gets a chance to ride the headliner rides. But unlike the paper FP system, where I could get multiple rides on the headliners if I was willing to go make a run for the tickets, the current system ensures that you will get one (1) and only one (1) ride on the best ride in the park each day. Unless you’re willing to stand in a 90-minute (or longer) line to ride it again, which I am not.


    Some people have reported that they can get FP’s for the headliners by using their original 3, making a new FP reservation for any ride, and then immediately trying to modify that new FP. By constantly refreshing the app in the modification menu, they claim they can get FP’s for any ride to show up. My experience was that this was not the case. I couldn't get any availability on the headliners beyond what I had reserved at the 60-day window. But that could have something to do with traveling during a more crowded time of year.


    It’s never a good feeling when you get in line at this spot, but fortunately they were just stacking the line before letting everyone in.


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    Despite our Barnstormer experience, someone was excited to ride. This was another one we’d viewed ahead of time on YouTube. Really, all we had to do was say the words “race car” and he was on board with the idea. Did we tell him how fast it went? Of course not.


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    As we walked through the line, though, Drew started having second thoughts. He didn’t want to go too fast. We comforted and assured him in infinite patience, by which I mean we kind of ignored him and worked on distracting him with the car design stuff along the queue. Once we reached the car design studio, all of the kids were fully engaged.


    We split up to work on 3 separate computer screens. Scotty and I worked the first one, and I let him take the lead. He decided he was going to try and build the Batmobile. My only requirement was that the car use a plasma burner for an engine. Because any time you can make a car use rocket fuel, you gotta do it. Environment, Schmironment.


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    Sarah and Dave teamed up to build a purple sports car of some sort. No fancy name was given, but this car was so fast you couldn’t even capture it in focus on the computer screen.


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    And last, but certainly not least, Julie let Drew play mad scientist with his car. Ladies and gentlemen, I present….The Jetanero.


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    I’m not exactly sure what a “Jetanero” is, but I believe it may be a mix of a fighter plane and a chili pepper.


    From there, we climbed into our test car. Drew was still a little skittish, but to his credit, he went along and didn’t make much of a fuss.


    By the end of the ride, he was a big fan! Turns out going really fast is a lot of fun, even if you get the Mike Wazowski treatment in the ride photo.


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    So that’s two “big” rides conquered for Drew. Not too shabby. Test Track is still a great ride. Originally, I was not a fan of the change from the more straight-forward car test story to the Tron effects. I felt like the story behind the ride was lost a bit. But after riding again, I have to admit that the car design portion is a great addition and a lot of fun, and the kids had a blast with it. So overall it’s a wash for me. I think it’s the best ride in Epcot.


    The kids played a while in the post-show area, where they have a lot of cool games that feature the car you just designed. Dave and Scotty have become big Formula One race fans and car geeks in general, so they were having fun checking out the various models of sports cars. Me? I went straight for the pickup truck.


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    We walked across Future World to the Land pavilion. I know this because it’s the next photo in my album.


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    It wasn’t quite time for our Soarin’ FP yet, so we hopped in line for The Slow Boat Tour Of The Place Where We Grow All Of The Vegetables You End Up Shoving To The Side Of Your Plate And Eventually Throwing In The Trash In All Of Our Restaurants (also known as Living With The Land). We figured Drew would always be up for a boat ride. This turned out to be a great move for him due to the sheer number of Hidden Mickeys available to find along the ride. He had a lot of fun finding them and pointing them out to us.


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    They also had the raw ingredients for manufacturing more Jetaneros.


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    All joking aside, I do find the gardens fascinating. Despite being a vegetable-hater, the science side of the farming techniques is fascinating. And they grow pineapple in there, which is a Food of the Gods®.


    Now it was time for Soarin’ Around The World. This was new to us—the last time we’d ridden Soarin’ (of any kind) was in 2014 in Disneyland, when it still flew over various sites in California. We all loved Soarin’ Over California. I loved the way it gave you the rush of swooping through Yosemite canyons and over the mountains. The scenery was gorgeous, and so was the score by the late, great Jerry Goldsmith. I thought the Imagineers had done as good a job as possible at making you feel like you were hang-gliding.


    We hadn’t seen the new version yet, and based on the reviews I’d read here on the DISboards, I was a little nervous. It seemed like the majority of readers were down on the latest flight. Nevertheless, we kept an open mind. Or, in the case of Drew, a caffeinated mind.


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    The good news: Drew had a great time. Yet another conquest!


    The bad news: we were all disappointed with the new version. I tried to think about my issues with it, and I came up with three strikes.


    Strike One: the new musical score is a re-worked version of the old one, and it doesn’t flow nearly as beautifully.


    Strike Two: For some reason, they opted for more CGI “surprises” jumping out of the screen at you and forgot to include the actual sensation of, you know, soaring. I had far fewer moments where I felt like I was swooping along over the scenery. Instead, each scene moved slower, making me feel like I was just hovering in place and waiting for the next poorly-animated creature to jump out at me. I preferred the sense of movement of the old ride.


    Strike Three: I don’t know all of the technical aspects of filming, but I know the old version didn’t seem to have any issues with being projected on a massive curved screen. The new version, however, makes everything look bow-shaped (I’m assuming that’s unless you’re sitting dead-center in the room). It pulls you right out of any suspension of disbelief. By the time we left the ride, the kids had already re-named the Eiffel Tower as the Scoliosis Tower.


    So, yeah. That was a bummer.


    Still, a day in Disney beats a day most anywhere else. Here’s an obligatory monorail/pond/Spaceship Earth shot, just because I like it.


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    We sat outside the Land and ate our PB&J sandwiches for lunch. It was a little early because we had an early dinner reservation that day. Once we’d finished choking them down, we went inside the character greeting area in the Innoventions building. The line for Baymax didn’t look to bad, and he’s one of Julie’s favorite characters ever, so we jumped in.


    I admit, I’m not much into the character greets. I hate to break this to you, but they’re actually just some random dude (or more often, dudette) in a costume. Spoiler alert.


    Yes, I understand that everyone is a kid again at Disney, but still...I feel weird getting in line to "meet" a character unless my kids are with me. I mean, I don't get in line to see Santa at the mall, either. At least, not since the Coal Incident.


    Character greets really depend on how good the actor is at portraying the character and being spontaneous. Some are obviously better than others. So, I don’t generally make it a priority to meet characters. But the kids have always liked interacting with them and getting their autographs. My general rule of thumb is to only get in line if the wait is 15 minutes or less.


    With Baymax, there’s not a whole lot going on as far as interaction goes. But I did get him to do the fist-bump thing (“Ba-la-la-la”), and he did attempt to swallow my children whole.


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    From there, we moved on to our second FP of the day: Spaceship Earth.


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    Time for some more potential Christmas card photos. We’ll just get a nice backdrop and…


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    Perfect! Everyone looks so thrilled and happy and—


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    Sigh. Let’s move on.


    I’ve always enjoyed the Big Golf Ball. I feel like it’s earned Classic Disney Dark Ride status. My only issue with it this time around was that I usually make a really stupid face (or, as @pkondz would say, I just look normal) for the photo to be used in the cartoon later, and this time around it didn’t take my picture. So I got the generic animation. I can only assume that I was so hideous, I broke the camera.


    Anyway, I’ll leave you with my handiwork from a few years ago.


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    Coming Up Next: We’ll try out the new version of Mission: Space. Maybe it will go over better than Soarin’? Also, Drew will try a nice palate-cleanser from Italy.
     
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  17. StarWarsMomofGirls!

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    This is seriously the best looking car I have seen on the trip reports! Amazingly original. I love its

    Yeah, the bending is pretty bad and it really kind of takes you out of the moment.

    I love it!
     
  18. QueenJen

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    I can't believe how much time was left for modifications!

    Love it - very unique

    How cool - an entire vehicle for the Oblivious family!

    :rotfl2:
     
  19. pkondz

    pkondz . . Dis Dad #797 . . Hoping to get lucky

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    "up north"....


    :lmao:

    This is very wise.
     
  20. pkondz

    pkondz . . Dis Dad #797 . . Hoping to get lucky

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    1. I'm surprised it's everyone's fave.
    2. I'm not surprised your all nerds.
    3. Being all nerds... I'm envious of you.

    Yes... which is why I find the FW part of Epcot so... disappointing. I sure hope they can put some of the wonder back into it with the massive refurb that's coming.

    Are you sure about that?

    Incorrect. There are still a fairly healthy portion who run to Soarin' first. Because they want to ride it twice and will use TT's single rider line later.

    Yeah... :sad2:

    Oh? I'm not sure? Maybe? Pretty sure I've always designed a car... and I don't think I've gone on it without a FP...

    ::yes::

    Yeah... I get the whole "FP means you don't stand in line", but... wouldn't it be nice if you could do, say,
    2 FPs for TT and one for Soarin'?

    Hadn't heard of that. And am very skeptical. It could be that they lucked out because someone changed at about the same time? Maybe?

    Phew! Had me worried there for a sec.

    :laughing: He is a boy after all!

    Of course.

    Oh? This is not particularly effective parenting Mark.
    If I may make a gently worded, non-judgmental suggestion here...

    Lie to him.

    That works wonders.

    ::yes:: No way you wouldn't do that IRL.

    Whoa! zzzzzzzzzoooooooommmmmm!!!!

    :laughing:
    I like it! Bet it won at least one round.

    Sure. Creative. Makes total sense.

    Great!

    Now you can stop lying to him.

    :laughing:

    Frame that for his collection of memories of the first trip to Disney.

    Agreed. And people get super competitive with it. I don't, since I don't really know what I'm doing. I'd have to do it much more often.

    Hmmm.... Can't say that I disagree with you. Soarin', the old version was a contender. Now... unless you're smack in the middle... not close.

    I'll hang with the obviously more intelligent kids.

    Better than taking notes.

    This becomes problematic when talking about it on the DIS.

    "So we rode SBTotPWWGAotVYEUSttSoYPaETitTiAoOR and it was really a nice break."

    :laughing:

    No argument here.

    Yeah... standing by for your report.

    Good!

    Ah... I was afraid of that. But...

    Huh. Now that I had not noticed.

    I wish there'd been actual film footage. It would have made it soooo much better. Movement would've been better as well as the actual footage. Those fake polar bears drive me nuts!

    Yep. You have to ask for dead center (and I prefer top.. no feet dangling) even if it means waiting a bit longer. You just... have to.

    Yeah... I remember the Eiffel Tower especially... and the Taj Mahal looked... awful.

    :lmao:
    OMG. Did they really?

    Nice!

    Yessss...

    "choking down"? Don't you mean "Devouring our hand held ambrosia"?

    Me neither.
    I've done a few for the TR, but...

    Yeah... It's not like you're meeting... say Johnny Depp.
    And even then.. I've never been blinded by that sort of thing. Or wanted autographs.

    Yep. I will do it for the kids too. But for the most part they weren't interested either.

    Only one coal incident?


    huh.

    bit surprised.

    ::yes::

    Is there a child in this photo?

    :lmao:

    It has. Hope the coming refurb doesn't change it too much. Wonder if they'll change the narrator again?
    Nooo! I don't want to not thank the Phoenicians!

    correct

    I wonder if the software just doesn't recognize it, or if there's a human going "nope!"
     
  21. SoccerDogWithEars

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    So funny story. I'm not a huge tech geek. My dad is. So most of my life I've had to hear about/read about/spend hours looking at things I don't really care about. One of the worst offenders was Innoventions (back in its glory days). Mom and I would be ready to go explore the countries or ride Test Track, and Dad would be slowly absorbing every little detail about every little exhibit.

    Joe is the same as my Dad. So on our first trip to Disney together, with Joe not knowing anything about it....I maybe sort of neglected to mention the existence of Innoventions. Until Joe was flipping through the guide books and saw the Sum of All Thrills. And asked me what it was. And where it was. And why I hadn't mentioned anything about Innoventions before. :rolleyes:

    On our last trip, I was able to successfully do this once. We were in DHS and I managed to snag a FP for Swirling Saucers at the same time as my parents. I tried a couple of other times, but I found that the constant refreshing was taking up my attention, and I'd rather spend time talking to the people I was with. So I stopped trying.

    This is one of the places I'm weirdly competitive. I want my car to come in first. But the first trip, I was nice and let Joe design the car. Until I saw the timer start flashing down, and Joe was still ignorantly playing with all the features you could add. I mentioned that he should be finalizing what he wanted. He ignored me. And we ended up with a car with random police lights on top :headache:

    So in discussing family size, I have always said that I want an even numbered family, because otherwise someone has to sit by themselves on Expedition Everest. I like this argument for 4 kids...you fill an entire Test Track car!
    (side note: I mentioned this to Joe. And he pointed out we would also fill a Space Mountain train. I think I'm slowly getting him onboard :rotfl2:)

    I still miss the old version. I think the new one loses some excitement on the indoor portion of the ride. We still quote the old one frequently...I have a habit of after any abrupt driving maneuver saying "And this time with the anti-lock brakes"

    These are the main issues I have with it as well. Our first time with the new version we were on the complete end of one of the side rows, so it was super distorted. And I'd much rather have real footage of the scenery rather than fake footage of something that doesn't even need to happen.

    Baymax is one of Joe's favorite characters, so on our honeymoon of course we had to meet him. Then they went through a whole spiel about no pins, sharp objects, etc., and I was terrified that somehow some way I would be the person to pop Baymax. So our photo ended up looking like this:

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    It is north. You're just way north.
     

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