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- Jan 7, 2005
My family (DW, our two teenagers, and I) just returned from a week at WDW during one of its busiest times, New Year’s week. I wanted to share our experiences and tips which will hopefully help others with their trip planning and overall vacation enjoyment.
Part 1: Trip planning
I am a points-and-miles hobbyist, and I thought I would share our experiences with airfare and hotels. I usually book travel as far out as possible, since we tend to plan our vacations a year ahead or more. We live in Los Angeles, and LAUSD has a three-week winter break. We usually travel on the final of the three weeks, which this year turned out to be New Year’s week. I booked an incredible deal on Alaska Airlines for $79 per person on the former Virgin America LAX-MCO non-stop leaving Saturday morning the 29th. Unfortunately, a few months after booking the flight, Alaska decided to abandon this route. While they refunded my money, it was too late to get a one-way for 12,500 miles per person. As a result, I ended up going with Delta, which had a non-stop for 20,000 miles per person. Not a great deal, but not the worst, either. Later, when American Express had an offer to get $60 back on a $300+ purchase on Delta, I was able to “upgrade” to Delta Comfort at almost a buy-three, get-one-free deal. It’s always worth checking American Express offers regularly, since great deals can suddenly materialize.
I have United Premier Silver status, so I was able to get a return flight for the following Saturday on one of those special routes that United reserves for its Premier and Chase Visa cardholders. It was 12,500 per person but had a four-hour layover in Houston. Without having one of those credentials, there would have been on routes priced at 12,5000. Luckily, there were also flight changes on this itinerary prior to our departure date but this time in my favor, so the layover shrank by an hour.
I am a DVC member and occasionally rent out my points here. We could have booked the entire week at my home resort, VWL (Boulder Ridge), but I really like being able to walk to a theme park whenever possible. I had also rented out many of my points, so with the high-season pricing for the first part of our trip, I did not have enough for the entire week. As a result, I booked three nights at the Swan using Starpoints. I chose the Swan over the Dolphin because I preferred the queen beds over the Dolphin’s doubles. This was before the merger, which ultimately resulted in a huge increase in points required per night, from 36,000 to 50,000. Luckily, I was locked in at the 36,000 (12,000 Starpoints) rate.
As the seven-month booking window drew near, I saw availability at the preferred DVC resorts shrink so that only Copper Creek was available of the resorts in which I was interested for the final three nights of the trip. I booked Copper Creek and waitlisted at BLT, since we wanted to be able to walk to MK. Luckily, the waitlist cleared a couple of months before the trip, and we got a lake-view room. I was able to book the first night at the Boardwalk, since DW really enjoys taking ME to the resort, and I had just enough points leftover for a one-night stay at those peak holiday rates.
I went with Undercover Tourist for the theme park tickets, since they were a few hundred dollars less than what Disney was charging. I opted out of buying a Tables In Wonderland card, since we were staying for only a week, and the 10% difference between the TIW and DVC discount was not going to reach $150. To cover the cost of meals and incidentals, I purchased Disney gift cards at Office Depot using my Chase Ink card, which earned me 5 miles per dollar for a total of almost 10,000 Ultimate Rewards. I also planned on using my accrued Discover Cashback Award of $200 to cover our meal the first night at Flying Fish. Finally, I planned on using my $300 annual Marriott credit from the Amex Starwood Luxury card to cover our meal at Todd English bluezoo as well as the expensive nightly resort fees and any breakfast overages during our Swan stay.
During previous trips, I have subscribed to Tour Guide Mike (TGM) and then TouringPlans, after TGM disappeared, as well as reading the predicted crowd statistics from easyWDW and Kenny the Pirate. These recommendations generally revolved around avoiding EMH. Unfortunately, when you go during the busiest time of the year, none of these strategies worked. It’s impossible to zig while other visitors zag when everybody is both zigging and zagging.
The best piece of advice that I followed which proved to be helpful was in one of the ever-popular Disney “hack” recommendations. I don’t agree with the term “hack” because hacking is illegal and potentially destructive to the person being hacked. Neither apply in most of the articles with “hacking” in the title, since Disney is not only harmed but presumably appreciates when guests take maximum advantage of the tools that Disney provides to them.
The advice which I appreciated and largely worked for us, especially at MK, had to do with maximizing your FastPass+ strategy. The most reasonable strategy offered was to give yourself an hour or two waiting on presumably shorter lines, then booking FastPasses between 10-2 or so and then frequently checking for available attractions as soon as you have used your third and final FastPass. When you are going during such a crowded time, unfortunately, if you want to avoid lines, you will need to book your FastPasses starting pretty early in the morning, since you will be lucky to go on your first ride with a line of a half-hour or so. I will give examples of how this strategy worked for me when I gave a day-by-day breakdown.
It is essential to book FastPasses at the 60-day window if you are staying on property. If you are not staying on property during this busy period, you will more than likely not be able to get FastPasses for the most popular attractions and will be facing lines of two-to-four hours. By getting up at 4 AM at exactly the 60-day mark, I was able to get FastPasses for such hard-to-score attractions as Flight of Passage, Frozen, the Seven Dwarfs’ Mine Ride, and Peter Pan, attractions where the multiple experiences FastPasses do not work.
Dining reservations were another matter. I did score a dinner reservation at Be Our Guest at the 60-day window, though I will share my largely-negative review on the corresponding day. However, for all but those quick-to-sell-out restaurants, reservations were generally available in the intervening months. Even at EPCOT, where every restaurant was showing sold out on New Year’s Eve closer to that date, availability periodically popped up. I made several changes along the way, even the day before we would visit a park during our vacation.
Next: Fast forward to day one, December 29th
Part 1: Trip planning
I am a points-and-miles hobbyist, and I thought I would share our experiences with airfare and hotels. I usually book travel as far out as possible, since we tend to plan our vacations a year ahead or more. We live in Los Angeles, and LAUSD has a three-week winter break. We usually travel on the final of the three weeks, which this year turned out to be New Year’s week. I booked an incredible deal on Alaska Airlines for $79 per person on the former Virgin America LAX-MCO non-stop leaving Saturday morning the 29th. Unfortunately, a few months after booking the flight, Alaska decided to abandon this route. While they refunded my money, it was too late to get a one-way for 12,500 miles per person. As a result, I ended up going with Delta, which had a non-stop for 20,000 miles per person. Not a great deal, but not the worst, either. Later, when American Express had an offer to get $60 back on a $300+ purchase on Delta, I was able to “upgrade” to Delta Comfort at almost a buy-three, get-one-free deal. It’s always worth checking American Express offers regularly, since great deals can suddenly materialize.
I have United Premier Silver status, so I was able to get a return flight for the following Saturday on one of those special routes that United reserves for its Premier and Chase Visa cardholders. It was 12,500 per person but had a four-hour layover in Houston. Without having one of those credentials, there would have been on routes priced at 12,5000. Luckily, there were also flight changes on this itinerary prior to our departure date but this time in my favor, so the layover shrank by an hour.
I am a DVC member and occasionally rent out my points here. We could have booked the entire week at my home resort, VWL (Boulder Ridge), but I really like being able to walk to a theme park whenever possible. I had also rented out many of my points, so with the high-season pricing for the first part of our trip, I did not have enough for the entire week. As a result, I booked three nights at the Swan using Starpoints. I chose the Swan over the Dolphin because I preferred the queen beds over the Dolphin’s doubles. This was before the merger, which ultimately resulted in a huge increase in points required per night, from 36,000 to 50,000. Luckily, I was locked in at the 36,000 (12,000 Starpoints) rate.
As the seven-month booking window drew near, I saw availability at the preferred DVC resorts shrink so that only Copper Creek was available of the resorts in which I was interested for the final three nights of the trip. I booked Copper Creek and waitlisted at BLT, since we wanted to be able to walk to MK. Luckily, the waitlist cleared a couple of months before the trip, and we got a lake-view room. I was able to book the first night at the Boardwalk, since DW really enjoys taking ME to the resort, and I had just enough points leftover for a one-night stay at those peak holiday rates.
I went with Undercover Tourist for the theme park tickets, since they were a few hundred dollars less than what Disney was charging. I opted out of buying a Tables In Wonderland card, since we were staying for only a week, and the 10% difference between the TIW and DVC discount was not going to reach $150. To cover the cost of meals and incidentals, I purchased Disney gift cards at Office Depot using my Chase Ink card, which earned me 5 miles per dollar for a total of almost 10,000 Ultimate Rewards. I also planned on using my accrued Discover Cashback Award of $200 to cover our meal the first night at Flying Fish. Finally, I planned on using my $300 annual Marriott credit from the Amex Starwood Luxury card to cover our meal at Todd English bluezoo as well as the expensive nightly resort fees and any breakfast overages during our Swan stay.
During previous trips, I have subscribed to Tour Guide Mike (TGM) and then TouringPlans, after TGM disappeared, as well as reading the predicted crowd statistics from easyWDW and Kenny the Pirate. These recommendations generally revolved around avoiding EMH. Unfortunately, when you go during the busiest time of the year, none of these strategies worked. It’s impossible to zig while other visitors zag when everybody is both zigging and zagging.
The best piece of advice that I followed which proved to be helpful was in one of the ever-popular Disney “hack” recommendations. I don’t agree with the term “hack” because hacking is illegal and potentially destructive to the person being hacked. Neither apply in most of the articles with “hacking” in the title, since Disney is not only harmed but presumably appreciates when guests take maximum advantage of the tools that Disney provides to them.
The advice which I appreciated and largely worked for us, especially at MK, had to do with maximizing your FastPass+ strategy. The most reasonable strategy offered was to give yourself an hour or two waiting on presumably shorter lines, then booking FastPasses between 10-2 or so and then frequently checking for available attractions as soon as you have used your third and final FastPass. When you are going during such a crowded time, unfortunately, if you want to avoid lines, you will need to book your FastPasses starting pretty early in the morning, since you will be lucky to go on your first ride with a line of a half-hour or so. I will give examples of how this strategy worked for me when I gave a day-by-day breakdown.
It is essential to book FastPasses at the 60-day window if you are staying on property. If you are not staying on property during this busy period, you will more than likely not be able to get FastPasses for the most popular attractions and will be facing lines of two-to-four hours. By getting up at 4 AM at exactly the 60-day mark, I was able to get FastPasses for such hard-to-score attractions as Flight of Passage, Frozen, the Seven Dwarfs’ Mine Ride, and Peter Pan, attractions where the multiple experiences FastPasses do not work.
Dining reservations were another matter. I did score a dinner reservation at Be Our Guest at the 60-day window, though I will share my largely-negative review on the corresponding day. However, for all but those quick-to-sell-out restaurants, reservations were generally available in the intervening months. Even at EPCOT, where every restaurant was showing sold out on New Year’s Eve closer to that date, availability periodically popped up. I made several changes along the way, even the day before we would visit a park during our vacation.
Next: Fast forward to day one, December 29th