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AquaDame

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@Cousin Orville I'm so sorry this happened to you!

I just called my company this morning too because we haven't heard a peep from them... she had said to expect our final confirmation numbers and info about two weeks out back in June and now its only eleven days to go before we land (we leave in 9!). The person on the phone seemed surprised I'd called and said we'd get it at a week out as they are reconfirming everything now and its all fine and she'll flag us for our agent to call us back. No info. A week out. Your story is making me think of a plan B and C... just in case. I told her not to bother flagging it if this is normal but she insisted. I do NOT want to be flagged if its a matter of waiting two more days - I just want to know my ducks are in a row. Ugh. I had planned to ask about other activities based on when our down time is but that's out the window I'm sure unless everything in the camps is booked first come first served. I don't even know exactly when our flights, transfers or game drives are. I give up on the idea that going with award winning companies is hassle free. :sad2:
 
  • AquaDame

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    AquaDame- what company is this? I'd be a mess if I had to deal with that!
    I'll PM you - I don't want to drag their name through the mud publicly as it all may still go swimmingly. If I end up recommending them at this point it'd just be with a huge asterisk that you have to be very chill about communication and VERY explicit about anything you think you may need. There won't be any time left to move events around or add things at this point if something doesn't jive (example - I was thinking we might want to do a hot air balloon or take a train ride at vic falls but I wanted to see the schedule first which I don't have). My hope is we can still add it when we get there but I don't know. We did contact one hotel because we want to do tea while we are there and I at least know THAT is first come first served... maybe most things are? Regardless, I didn't even get so much as a thanks we got it email when we put in our final payment and it was a VERY large amount we have sunk in with them. Just the website switched to saying PIF. :confused3
     

    KEK1

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    In case anyone is interested in other China options. I have had a schedule arranged for a private tour with English speaking guide through China Discoverys. It's 19 days, starts in Hong Kong, goes to Guilin, Longsheng (rice terraces), Yangshuo,Zhangjiajie (Avatar floating mountains),Shanghai, Suzhou ,Huangshan, Mt Huangshan,Beijing
    It's heavy on scenery and walking as that's what we like. 5 star hotels, 1st class train tickets, 1 economy flight. $8k US for 2. Only thing it doesn't incl is Disney and 1 night at each of the Disney hotels, and park tickets. It looks great, we will probably do it. Can send full itinary if anyone is interested.
     

    Calfan

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    I'll PM you - I don't want to drag their name through the mud publicly as it all may still go swimmingly. If I end up recommending them at this point it'd just be with a huge asterisk that you have to be very chill about communication and VERY explicit about anything you think you may need. There won't be any time left to move events around or add things at this point if something doesn't jive (example - I was thinking we might want to do a hot air balloon or take a train ride at vic falls but I wanted to see the schedule first which I don't have). My hope is we can still add it when we get there but I don't know. We did contact one hotel because we want to do tea while we are there and I at least know THAT is first come first served... maybe most things are? Regardless, I didn't even get so much as a thanks we got it email when we put in our final payment and it was a VERY large amount we have sunk in with them. Just the website switched to saying PIF. :confused3
    I believe you can reserve tea in advance at the Victoria Falls Hotel if you want to try to do that for some certainty. Also, if you do find yourself with time in Vic Falls for the activities you are interested in, I highly recommend Wild Horizons for booking activities. They have an office/kiosk in downtown Vic Falls. (I arranged everything in advance with them via email but realize that likely won't work for you since you don't know your exact schedule.) Wild Horizons actually reserved our tea for us as well.
     

    sayhello

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    In case anyone is interested in other China options. I have had a schedule arranged for a private tour with English speaking guide through China Discoverys. It's 19 days, starts in Hong Kong, goes to Guilin, Longsheng (rice terraces), Yangshuo,Zhangjiajie (Avatar floating mountains),Shanghai, Suzhou ,Huangshan, Mt Huangshan,Beijing
    It's heavy on scenery and walking as that's what we like. 5 star hotels, 1st class train tickets, 1 economy flight. $8k US for 2. Only thing it doesn't incl is Disney and 1 night at each of the Disney hotels, and park tickets. It looks great, we will probably do it. Can send full itinary if anyone is interested.
    No Xi'an and the Terra Cotta Soldiers? :(

    Sayhello
     
  • KEK1

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    No Xi'an and the Terra Cotta Soldiers? :(

    Sayhello
    No.. Not this time. I know they are one of the big things but somethings had to go. Will come back (Would like to see the national park in the south that's been damaged by earthquakes and Tibet, as well).
    They were your favourite, weren't they?
     

    sayhello

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    No.. Not this time. I know they are one of the big things but somethings had to go. Will come back (Would like to see the national park in the south that's been damaged by earthquakes and Tibet, as well).
    They were your favourite, weren't they?
    They were! It was an insane day, but was totally worth it, because I really loved the terra cotta soldiers. The cruise on the river Li was also great. And I assume since you go to Beijing, that you'll be doing the Great Wall. So iconic!

    Sayhello
     

    AquaDame

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    I believe you can reserve tea in advance at the Victoria Falls Hotel if you want to try to do that for some certainty. Also, if you do find yourself with time in Vic Falls for the activities you are interested in, I highly recommend Wild Horizons for booking activities. They have an office/kiosk in downtown Vic Falls. (I arranged everything in advance with them via email but realize that likely won't work for you since you don't know your exact schedule.) Wild Horizons actually reserved our tea for us as well.
    It was Vic Falls that told my husband it is first come first served... maybe they set aside some if you are staying at the hotel so its not a big deal? Very interesting WH was able to secure it ahead of time...!
     

    *WDW*Groupie*

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    I'll PM you - I don't want to drag their name through the mud publicly as it all may still go swimmingly. If I end up recommending them at this point it'd just be with a huge asterisk that you have to be very chill about communication and VERY explicit about anything you think you may need. There won't be any time left to move events around or add things at this point if something doesn't jive (example - I was thinking we might want to do a hot air balloon or take a train ride at vic falls but I wanted to see the schedule first which I don't have). My hope is we can still add it when we get there but I don't know. We did contact one hotel because we want to do tea while we are there and I at least know THAT is first come first served... maybe most things are? Regardless, I didn't even get so much as a thanks we got it email when we put in our final payment and it was a VERY large amount we have sunk in with them. Just the website switched to saying PIF. :confused3
    We have done Africa twice on our own. The first time we used Singita Travel department to make all of our arrangements and all communication was great (though they are also a bit slow to respond inquiries). The second time we used another agency and the communication was similar to what you are experiencing. I can tell you that everything worked out perfectly. I am trying to plan a third trip to Africa with another agency and he is *very* slow to respond to my e-mails, however I met him in person last year on our travels and thought he was amazing, so will stay with him.

    I tried to use Singita Travel to book our third trip (next year), but they pulled some nasty shenanigans on me and it left a very sour taste in my mouth (I started the booking process with them at 18 months in advance, so this never should have happened). I will avoid them from now on. For the prices they charge they shouldn't have done what they did. There are plenty of other operators in Africa that I can and will use.
     
  • AquaDame

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    I tried to use Singita Travel to book our third trip (next year), but they pulled some nasty shenanigans on me and it left a very sour taste in my mouth (I started the booking process with them at 18 months in advance, so this never should have happened). I will avoid them from now on. For the prices they charge they shouldn't have done what they did. There are plenty of other operators in Africa that I can and will use.
    May I ask what the shenanigans were? We also booked 17 months out as I know we are going during a peak time of year. Sadly the rains came early so we'll see if it pays off or not with our viewing but we tried. :headache:
     

    *WDW*Groupie*

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    May I ask what the shenanigans were? We also booked 17 months out as I know we are going during a peak time of year. Sadly the rains came early so we'll see if it pays off or not with our viewing but we tried. :headache:
    It's a bit of a long story. We have visited Singita Sabi Sands before. We wanted to stay at Boulders Lodge next year and had booked a room for 5 nights there. They contacted me (we were still finalizing the Rwanda and Tanzania portions of the trip) and asked if I would be willing to move to Ebony Lodge as they had a group that wanted to book all of Boulders for our dates. I told them that I had stayed at Ebony before and did not want to stay again; they then offered me some lame promo that I wasn't interested in (to entice me to move). I said that I wanted to stay at Boulders -- they then called me and told me that I wouldn't be very happy there as it would be me and a large group (because the group wasn't willing to move either). I told them I was fine with that as we have traveled on our own many times before. They then called me again and said the group was planning on booking up the dining room for dinners and we wouldn't be able to eat in the dining room and would likely have room service each night; our bomo dinner would have to be solo as the group had special requests and we weren't included. I asked why they were pushing this so hard and they said that one party of the group wasn't going to be able to travel if we took up the last suite, to which I told them they should have the group shift their dates or move to Boulders. They said they were firm on Boulders and their dates, just like I was (I was willing to shift my dates a bit, but it wasn't enough to accomodate the large group). They kept hounding me about moving to Ebony, which I didn't want to do; they then offered to have me stay at Lebombo, which is another region of S. Africa (where I've already been), which didn't interest me at all. After all the back and forth, with me standing firm on my room at Boulders, they e-mailed me and said they had bumped me from the lodge and they would work with me to put me somewhere else. At that point I was done; I was happy to pay their prices for their level of service, but that pushed me over the edge. I will probably never stay with them again (although their Rwanda lodge is enticing -- but One and Only is opening in Rwanda soon, so...). They forsook my booking for the large group. They knew I wanted Boulders (and had already booked it), but they pushed me out to get a large booking.
     

    AquaDame

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    It's a bit of a long story. We have visited Singita Sabi Sands before. We wanted to stay at Boulders Lodge next year and had booked a room for 5 nights there. They contacted me (we were still finalizing the Rwanda and Tanzania portions of the trip) and asked if I would be willing to move to Ebony Lodge as they had a group that wanted to book all of Boulders for our dates. I told them that I had stayed at Ebony before and did not want to stay again; they then offered me some lame promo that I wasn't interested in (to entice me to move). I said that I wanted to stay at Boulders -- they then called me and told me that I wouldn't be very happy there as it would be me and a large group (because the group wasn't willing to move either). I told them I was fine with that as we have traveled on our own many times before. They then called me again and said the group was planning on booking up the dining room for dinners and we wouldn't be able to eat in the dining room and would likely have room service each night; our bomo dinner would have to be solo as the group had special requests and we weren't included. I asked why they were pushing this so hard and they said that one party of the group wasn't going to be able to travel if we took up the last suite, to which I told them they should have the group shift their dates or move to Boulders. They said they were firm on Boulders and their dates, just like I was (I was willing to shift my dates a bit, but it wasn't enough to accomodate the large group). They kept hounding me about moving to Ebony, which I didn't want to do; they then offered to have me stay at Lebombo, which is another region of S. Africa (where I've already been), which didn't interest me at all. After all the back and forth, with me standing firm on my room at Boulders, they e-mailed me and said they had bumped me from the lodge and they would work with me to put me somewhere else. At that point I was done; I was happy to pay their prices for their level of service, but that pushed me over the edge. I will probably never stay with them again (although their Rwanda lodge is enticing -- but One and Only is opening in Rwanda soon, so...). They forsook my booking for the large group. They knew I wanted Boulders (and had already booked it), but they pushed me out to get a large booking.
    I think I would be done with them as well. I understand trying to please the large group as they are bringing in a lot of money, but that is a level of hounding that I would not abide by. If they had canceled me from the get go I might have understood it was a business move but the way they dangled it and dragged it out somehow makes me MORE mad about it. They wasted your time too at that point. The moment they told me I couldn't have a normal dinner is when I would have written them off and left my review about it. After that I don't think I would have been happy under any circumstances that would make it easy to stay there.
     

    *WDW*Groupie*

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    May I ask what the shenanigans were? We also booked 17 months out as I know we are going during a peak time of year. Sadly the rains came early so we'll see if it pays off or not with our viewing but we tried. :headache:
    Just wanted to say that there is never a bad day when you are on game drives. I follow the Londolozi blogs (LOVE Londolozi) and there are lion and leopard cubs currently!! Also the rangers told us that during the rains, it only rains for a bit and it's not as bad as people think. There is something so special about Africa -- you are going to have an amazing time.

    I'm not sure what lodges you are staying at, but usually the staff will bend over backwards to accommodate your requests. When you arrive just tell them you want to do an air balloon ride and I'm sure they will do everything possible to book you. For some reason they don't have the same sense of urgency that we tend to have (more like hakuna matata).

    Please keep us updated as the time for your departure nears. I'm sure things will work out.
     

    AquaDame

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    Just wanted to say that there is never a bad day when you are on game drives. I follow the Londolozi blogs (LOVE Londolozi) and there are lion and leopard cubs currently!! Also the rangers told us that during the rains, it only rains for a bit and it's not as bad as people think. There is something so special about Africa -- you are going to have an amazing time.

    I'm not sure what lodges you are staying at, but usually the staff will bend over backwards to accommodate your requests. When you arrive just tell them you want to do an air balloon ride and I'm sure they will do everything possible to book you. For some reason they don't have the same sense of urgency that we tend to have (more like hakuna matata).

    Please keep us updated as the time for your departure nears. I'm sure things will work out.
    Thank you - that does make me feel better!

    I suppose that's the nice thing about the migration... it has to be SOMEWHERE, so we will surely find it, even if its not on the river crossings. :magnify: We have a week split between the Maasai Mara and Serengeti in addition to several other areas on this trip. Gosh the more I think about this trip the more excited I am getting. I need to warn my husband that I am probably going to be in happy tears for the first few hours of the drives (and maybe some more as we go on).
     

    RSM

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    We are a few weeks back from our trip to Vietnam and Cambodia trip with Thomson Family Adventures, and the whole experience was awesome. This is our second trip with TFA and pre-trip service, itinerary and execution has been fantastic. What we really appreciated about this trip and TFA are:
    --We booked this trip as part of group tour. It is billed as a Vietnam Culinary Adventure, and we added on the Cambodia extension. Turns out, we were the only 3 (2 adults and 16 y/o son) that booked the tour. So, it turned into a private tour. We weren’t sure how this would work, but it turned out great. Our guide in Vietnam was fantastic (more about that later). He travelled through Vietnam with us. Same for our guide in Cambodia.
    --One of the things I like about TFA is the pre-trip touch bases. After booking your trip, you work with the same trip specialist for questions, specific needs (e.g., food allergies), any modifications you may want to make to the itinerary, etc. About every month coming up on your trip you get a quick email with either reminders of your trip or any due dates upcoming. About 3 weeks before the trip, they send final paperwork and some swag (you get to pick what you want from a small catalogue). Then about a week later they will set up a call with the trip specialist (if you want) to answer any questions you may have about the trip, itinerary, etc. After a while, you really feel like you know your trip specialist and they are as invested in your trip as you are.
    --The thing that drew us to this tour of Vietnam was the diversity of the itinerary. In particular, was the 3-day;2-night tour of Halong Bay. It did not disappoint. The “junket” and amenities on board were incredible. Activities over the couple of days included kayaking, swimming, going through a cave, and biking to a village, along with cruising through the bay. We were in a part of the area where there were not a lot of other tourist. For most of the cruise no other boats were visible. Even when we “parked” over night there were no more than 4 or 5 other boats in the area. The crew said other parts are much more crowded. Other parts of this excursion do follow much of the Vietnam ABD (Saigon, Hoi An, Hanoi, and Siem Reap)-we didn’t go to Laos. There was a really good mix of activities in the cities, but also getting out into the smaller villages and spending time with some of the local people. We found the people of Vietnam to be wonderful, caring people with a great sense of humor. In many cases, although we didn’t share a common language, we found ourselves laughing along with the people.
    --For Cambodia our main motivation was to go to Angkor Wat and the temple area. We went and it was great. But again, the most meaningful things were some of the lesser known (to us anyways) activities. For example, we went to the Apopo center. This is a place where rats are trained to sniff out land landmines and unexploded ordinances. Cambodia still has >2 million landmines and unexploded ordinances, and large portions of land cannot be used until cleared. Basically, what would take a human 3 days to do, can be done by a rat in 4 hours.
    --This ended up being a private tour which afforded a lot of flexibility to adjust the itinerary and do things we may not have been able to do with a group of 30-40. For example, Marble Mountain was not on the original itinerary, but we were able to add it without skipping any other activity. Our guide just adjusted a few things. We were able to go to the top of the old CIA building where the last helicopter took off during the Vietnam war. It took a little cajoling with the security guard as it is normally not open to the public, but our guide made it happen.
    --There are often posts about small groups vs. large groups. For us, our bias has shifted from the large groups to small group or private. We have found that what we value in the experience/adventure has shifted over the years. Aside from the flexibility, we have found that we can get much more in-depth on the activity or experience in a smaller group. As an example, the day of our cooking lesson in Vietnam, we were able to go into the markets with the chef who would be leading the class and shop for our food. He explained what he looks for when he is shopping in the markets. Given the size and space in the markets, this is possible only with a small group. As our son has matured (and his attention span increased), what we value in the adventure has shifted to the more intimate experiences. Five years ago, he would have been bored after 2 minutes of walking through a market with a chef talking about buying food.
    --Both of our guides were fantastic. We spent 13 days with our guide in Vietnam and 3 days with our guide in Cambodia. Our guide in Vietnam simply made everything we asked for happen. Even if we saw something on a van ride, and commented about it, we would find ourselves at that stop the next day even though it was not on the itinerary. He would simply squeeze it in. He picked up on a lot of thing as well. For example, my wife likes to keep the ticket stubs to the sites and places we go on a trip. It then becomes part of the scrapbook/photo album. Our guide noticed this after the first day, and on the last day presented her with a scrapbook of all the ticket stubs. As another example, we had these coconut cookies or crackers that we really liked. We mentioned we couldn’t find them in Hanoi and he said they were only available in Saigon. No big deal for us, but when we saw him the last day, he had 5 cases of these cookies shipped up to Hanoi for us. He just really exemplified “can do”. Both guides were able to tell stories about the history of their country that captivated you, and we had great conversations about what it is like in America and how much of their perception is formed by the movies.
    --This was billed as a Culinary Adventure, and it was certainly that. I won’t go into everything we ate, but we tried many of the local “specialties”. One bit of feedback we gave to Thomson was that there really wasn’t much of a selection of western food (other than breakfast buffets). We understood that there was a food focus to the tour, but families with younger children may need a few more western meal options scattered throughout the tour. On this tour, most days we could order from the menu, however, a few days were set menus (e.g., the food tour on a vespa).
    --In terms of hotels, I think ABD tends to stay at higher end hotels than Thomson. Although, for this tour I’d say the hotels are pretty comparable. In fact, in Siem Reap we stay at the same hotel. We saw the ABD group there. In Saigon, the ABD hotel may be a little more upscale. I’d say the resort in Hoi An and the hotels in Hanoi are pretty comparable.
     

    Calfan

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    We are a few weeks back from our trip to Vietnam and Cambodia trip with Thomson Family Adventures, and the whole experience was awesome. This is our second trip with TFA and pre-trip service, itinerary and execution has been fantastic. What we really appreciated about this trip and TFA are:
    --We booked this trip as part of group tour. It is billed as a Vietnam Culinary Adventure, and we added on the Cambodia extension. Turns out, we were the only 3 (2 adults and 16 y/o son) that booked the tour. So, it turned into a private tour. We weren’t sure how this would work, but it turned out great. Our guide in Vietnam was fantastic (more about that later). He travelled through Vietnam with us. Same for our guide in Cambodia.
    --One of the things I like about TFA is the pre-trip touch bases. After booking your trip, you work with the same trip specialist for questions, specific needs (e.g., food allergies), any modifications you may want to make to the itinerary, etc. About every month coming up on your trip you get a quick email with either reminders of your trip or any due dates upcoming. About 3 weeks before the trip, they send final paperwork and some swag (you get to pick what you want from a small catalogue). Then about a week later they will set up a call with the trip specialist (if you want) to answer any questions you may have about the trip, itinerary, etc. After a while, you really feel like you know your trip specialist and they are as invested in your trip as you are.
    --The thing that drew us to this tour of Vietnam was the diversity of the itinerary. In particular, was the 3-day;2-night tour of Halong Bay. It did not disappoint. The “junket” and amenities on board were incredible. Activities over the couple of days included kayaking, swimming, going through a cave, and biking to a village, along with cruising through the bay. We were in a part of the area where there were not a lot of other tourist. For most of the cruise no other boats were visible. Even when we “parked” over night there were no more than 4 or 5 other boats in the area. The crew said other parts are much more crowded. Other parts of this excursion do follow much of the Vietnam ABD (Saigon, Hoi An, Hanoi, and Siem Reap)-we didn’t go to Laos. There was a really good mix of activities in the cities, but also getting out into the smaller villages and spending time with some of the local people. We found the people of Vietnam to be wonderful, caring people with a great sense of humor. In many cases, although we didn’t share a common language, we found ourselves laughing along with the people.
    --For Cambodia our main motivation was to go to Angkor Wat and the temple area. We went and it was great. But again, the most meaningful things were some of the lesser known (to us anyways) activities. For example, we went to the Apopo center. This is a place where rats are trained to sniff out land landmines and unexploded ordinances. Cambodia still has >2 million landmines and unexploded ordinances, and large portions of land cannot be used until cleared. Basically, what would take a human 3 days to do, can be done by a rat in 4 hours.
    --This ended up being a private tour which afforded a lot of flexibility to adjust the itinerary and do things we may not have been able to do with a group of 30-40. For example, Marble Mountain was not on the original itinerary, but we were able to add it without skipping any other activity. Our guide just adjusted a few things. We were able to go to the top of the old CIA building where the last helicopter took off during the Vietnam war. It took a little cajoling with the security guard as it is normally not open to the public, but our guide made it happen.
    --There are often posts about small groups vs. large groups. For us, our bias has shifted from the large groups to small group or private. We have found that what we value in the experience/adventure has shifted over the years. Aside from the flexibility, we have found that we can get much more in-depth on the activity or experience in a smaller group. As an example, the day of our cooking lesson in Vietnam, we were able to go into the markets with the chef who would be leading the class and shop for our food. He explained what he looks for when he is shopping in the markets. Given the size and space in the markets, this is possible only with a small group. As our son has matured (and his attention span increased), what we value in the adventure has shifted to the more intimate experiences. Five years ago, he would have been bored after 2 minutes of walking through a market with a chef talking about buying food.
    --Both of our guides were fantastic. We spent 13 days with our guide in Vietnam and 3 days with our guide in Cambodia. Our guide in Vietnam simply made everything we asked for happen. Even if we saw something on a van ride, and commented about it, we would find ourselves at that stop the next day even though it was not on the itinerary. He would simply squeeze it in. He picked up on a lot of thing as well. For example, my wife likes to keep the ticket stubs to the sites and places we go on a trip. It then becomes part of the scrapbook/photo album. Our guide noticed this after the first day, and on the last day presented her with a scrapbook of all the ticket stubs. As another example, we had these coconut cookies or crackers that we really liked. We mentioned we couldn’t find them in Hanoi and he said they were only available in Saigon. No big deal for us, but when we saw him the last day, he had 5 cases of these cookies shipped up to Hanoi for us. He just really exemplified “can do”. Both guides were able to tell stories about the history of their country that captivated you, and we had great conversations about what it is like in America and how much of their perception is formed by the movies.
    --This was billed as a Culinary Adventure, and it was certainly that. I won’t go into everything we ate, but we tried many of the local “specialties”. One bit of feedback we gave to Thomson was that there really wasn’t much of a selection of western food (other than breakfast buffets). We understood that there was a food focus to the tour, but families with younger children may need a few more western meal options scattered throughout the tour. On this tour, most days we could order from the menu, however, a few days were set menus (e.g., the food tour on a vespa).
    --In terms of hotels, I think ABD tends to stay at higher end hotels than Thomson. Although, for this tour I’d say the hotels are pretty comparable. In fact, in Siem Reap we stay at the same hotel. We saw the ABD group there. In Saigon, the ABD hotel may be a little more upscale. I’d say the resort in Hoi An and the hotels in Hanoi are pretty comparable.
    Great to get this feedback. Southeast Asia is on my list, with most of my interest being in Vietnam and the Angkor temples in Cambodia. We’ve done China with Thomson and will be doing Japan with them next year. They might just end up being our *go to* for Asia, lol. Love that this itinerary includes Halong Bay. For a while I thought we were going to have a private tour for China like you did on this one. We ended up with one other family, but it was a great fit and we still had the flexibility to change some things up as you describe. It’s so nice that Thomson guarantees their departures from the first booking.
     

    RSM

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    Great to get this feedback. Southeast Asia is on my list, with most of my interest being in Vietnam and the Angkor temples in Cambodia. We’ve done China with Thomson and will be doing Japan with them next year. They might just end up being our *go to* for Asia, lol. Love that this itinerary includes Halong Bay. For a while I thought we were going to have a private tour for China like you did on this one. We ended up with one other family, but it was a great fit and we still had the flexibility to change some things up as you describe. It’s so nice that Thomson guarantees their departures from the first booking.
    I think you'll like Thomson's Japan trip. We did it last year. We ended up adding on a couple of days to climb Mt. Fuji at the beginning, then going back to Tokyo for an additional 4 days at the end of the trip.
     

    Calfan

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    Aug 31, 2009
    I think you'll like Thomson's Japan trip. We did it last year. We ended up adding on a couple of days to climb Mt. Fuji at the beginning, then going back to Tokyo for an additional 4 days at the end of the trip.
    Awesome. We’ve arranged an overnight with Thomson to Mt. Fuji at the beginning of the trip (after 3 nights at Tokyo Disney on our own) and a Hiroshima extension at the end of the trip.
     

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