Looks like no room privacy now.

[insureman]

This is from Scott's blog.

http://disneycruiselineblog.com/201...-room-occupied-door-hangers-across-the-fleet/

 

[Ravenne]

Was there ever "privacy" like the olden days of hotels on DCL though? Stateroom hosts have always entered rooms at least 1x a day, usually 2x a day regardless.

I'm curious what their policy is now with minors in the room with no adults...if that's changed at all.

 

[Dug720]

Was there ever "privacy" like the olden days of hotels on DCL though? Stateroom hosts have always entered rooms at least 1x a day, usually 2x a day regardless.

I'm curious what their policy is now with minors in the room with no adults...if that's changed at all.

i didn't think technically there WERE supposed to be minors in rooms with no adults. In practice people sleep wherever, but I thought there is supposed to be an adult registered in every room.

 

[Ravenne]

i didn't think technically there WERE supposed to be minors in rooms with no adults. In practice people sleep wherever, but I thought there is supposed to be an adult registered in every room.

I meant more like say you have a 14 yr old who decided to go back to the room after dinner instead of going with the family to the show, for example, and the stateroom host wants to go in to do turn down service, etc. They're supposed to come back when the teen is not there. In the past, the stateroom host won't even come into the room with us adults there. They always say they'll come back when we're not there. I'm curious what the policy is now with this change, if any at all.

My initial thought about the whole door hanger thing was that it's kind of redundant on DCL since the stateroom host goes into the room every day anyway, plus guests goes through security much like airports in all departing ports, so uncovering something like what happened in Vegas (as mentioned/suggested in Scott's blog) isn't as likely. I don't have a problem with it. Like I said, they go into the rooms every day anyway, and DCL was even the example I used when the resorts made the change, it just seems redundant.

 

[DCSWO]

Following Las Vegas, this is coming to every hotel and cruise ship. Just give it some time.

 

[squirk]

Stateroom attendants aside, did anyone seriously ever think that by hanging the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the doorknob, DCL would never ever come into your stateroom, even if they thought there was a health or safety risk inside?

I guess it's just a reminder to people that that possibility has always been there, whether the door hanger explicitly said it or not.

 

[AquaDame]

Stateroom attendants aside, did anyone seriously ever think that by hanging the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the doorknob, DCL would never ever come into your stateroom, even if they thought there was a health or safety risk inside?

I guess it's just a reminder to people that that possibility has always been there, whether the door hanger explicitly said it or not.

We never did... we still get knocks on the door regardless. "Do Not Disturb" never meant they wouldn't... I think in practice it will be the same as ever.

 

[Lilsia]

We have sailed 7 times on a Disney ship and have never had them knock on our door when we have our DND sign up. We like to sleep in and so it is up mostly when we are still in bed. Like Ravenne said, your bags are scanned and everyone goes through an X-ray machine, plus the stateroom host are in there twice a day. If they want to have a policy that if your sign is up for 2 days then they can knock and check on you then I can understand that. But having them knock on your door when you are trying to sleep in or shower, for no reason, is unnecessary. Nice relaxing vacation as they come knocking on your door just to "check" on you as if you are a criminal. I don't like it and it does nothing.

 

[squirk]

But having them knock on your door when you are trying to sleep in or shower, for no reason, is unnecessary. Nice relaxing vacation as they come knocking on your door just to "check" on you as if you are a criminal. I don't like it and it does nothing.

You really think that's what they are going to do - just breeze into your stateroom at any time for no reason just for a random spot-check?

Again, they have always had the ability to enter your stateroom if they thought there was a health or safety risk. Printing the policy on the door hanger doesn't change anything; it just increases awareness of what the policy is.

Also, these door hangers have been in place for several months at the resorts. I've yet to see a news article about staff starting to just indiscreetly and indiscriminately bust into rooms while people are sleeping or showering.

 

[bbel]

The way I see it is that it nothing has changed. It's all still exactly the same. They're just making the policy thats been in place for years, obvious to guests.
The only change is the wording/design of the sign...

If the don't have to enter, they won't, it doesn't say anything about housekeeping waltzing in every 5 minutes just because they can, it's just making it clear that will come in if they feel they absolutely have to and a sign on the door won't stop them...

 

[Ravenne]

Stateroom attendants aside, did anyone seriously ever think that by hanging the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the doorknob, DCL would never ever come into your stateroom, even if they thought there was a health or safety risk inside?

I guess it's just a reminder to people that that possibility has always been there, whether the door hanger explicitly said it or not.

And safes...don't assume you'll have privacy with stuff kept in the room safes either. They can, and will open them if necessary. We often talk about what would happen to your passport and stuff if you miss the ship around here, and it's been discussed that they can enter your room to get it and leave it with port officials for you. Just think about it....they can and will go in your room and safe.

As for coming in while in the shower thing...I would hope if they do open the door and hear the shower going that they promptly leave and come back at another time, because if I'm in the shower, I'm not going to be able to hear them with the water running, and I'm liable to open the door to ventilate or give myself a bit more elbow room to maneuver in there.

The way I see it is that it nothing has changed. It's all still exactly the same. They're just making the policy thats been in place for years, obvious to guests.
The only change is the wording/design of the sign...

If the don't have to enter, they won't, it doesn't say anything about housekeeping waltzing in every 5 minutes just because they can, it's just making it clear that will come in if they feel they absolutely have to and a sign on the door won't stop them...

That's my thinking too. It's really just verbiage to clarify things. I wouldn't think anything actually changed.

 

[squirk]

And safes...don't assume you'll have privacy with stuff kept in the room safes either. They can, and will open them if necessary. We often talk about what would happen to your passport and stuff if you miss the ship around here, and it's been discussed that they can enter your room to get it and leave it with port officials for you. Just think about it....they can and will go in your room and safe.

I don't know for sure, but I would highly doubt every Tom, Dick & Harry on the ship has the tools, skill and knowledge to open a safe. I would bet that only a very small subset of people (security staff?) can actually do that, and I would equally bet that they would be required to have a second person escort them to prevent the possibility of any shenanigans.

I mean, DCL is not in the "snooping" business. They are in the "making sure you have a fun and safe vacation" business.

 

[phinz]

You really think that's what they are going to do - just breeze into your stateroom at any time for no reason just for a random spot-check?

This is *exactly* what they did at Boardwalk Inn a month ago. Literally breezed in, looked around and left. I had requested more towels. The housekeeper brought them, but a maintenance guy basically barged into the room to look around. I guess they thought we might have been cooking meth or something in the 18 hours we had been there.

 

[phinz]

I don't know for sure, but I would highly doubt every Tom, Dick & Harry on the ship has the tools, skill and knowledge to open a safe.

YouTube and Google take care of that. I had a safe that was stuck in the locked position but open at Bonnet Creek a year ago. It took me all of 5 minutes to do a search for the brand of safe, model of safe and default admin code, which is almost never changed. It wasn't changed and I was able to unlock the door so that I could close it and lock it.

 

[squirk]

This is *exactly* what they did at Boardwalk Inn a month ago. Literally breezed in, looked around and left. I had requested more towels. The housekeeper brought them, but a maintenance guy basically barged into the room to look around. I guess they thought we might have been cooking meth or something in the 18 hours we had been there.

Didn't knock or announce himself? That sounds like an error on his part. We were at Old Key West for 10 days last month, and they let us know a full day in advance that they'd be coming in. And they knocked/announced when they did come in.

YouTube and Google take care of that. I had a safe that was stuck in the locked position but open at Bonnet Creek a year ago. It took me all of 5 minutes to do a search for the brand of safe, model of safe and default admin code, which is almost never changed. It wasn't changed and I was able to unlock the door so that I could close it and lock it.

Well, sure. I'm not saying a criminally-minded stateroom attendant could not do that. I'm saying that, as a policy, DCL is not going to train every single stateroom attendant on how to crack one of those safes.

 

[phinz]

Didn't knock or announce himself? We were at Old Key West for 10 days last month, and they let us know a full day in advance that they'd be coming in.



Well, sure. I'm not saying a criminally-minded stateroom attendant could not do that. I'm saying that, as a policy, DCL is not going to train every single stateroom attendant on how to crack one of those safes.

He pushed past the housekeeper when I opened the door, announced he was doing a room check and then breezed right on in. No notice. Just waltzed right in. He then fussed at her for not doing a room check.

 

[squirk]

He pushed past the housekeeper when I opened the door, announced he was doing a room check and then breezed right on in. No notice. Just waltzed right in. He then fussed at her for not doing a room check.

Hmm. I hope you reported that. I would bet that is not how Disney wanted that to be handled.

 

[Lilsia]

You really think that's what they are going to do - just breeze into your stateroom at any time for no reason just for a random spot-check?

Again, they have always had the ability to enter your stateroom if they thought there was a health or safety risk. Printing the policy on the door hanger doesn't change anything; it just increases awareness of what the policy is.

Also, these door hangers have been in place for several months at the resorts. I've yet to see a news article about staff starting to just indiscreetly and indiscriminately bust into rooms while people are sleeping or showering.

I know that could enter for emergencies, that is a given. DND signs used to mean that you do not want to be disturbed and hotels would honor that. I have had a few times at various hotels, that I had called down for room service or more towels etc, and had left the DND sign on. I heard them outside my door calling down to front desk saying they could not knock because my DND sign was up, even when I asked for something. I hurried up and opened the door. So hotels used to honor it. The wording on this new signs does not have the same meaning, so in theory you can have your room occupied sign up but they will still knock. Them coming into your room to "check" is the whole point of these signs after all. There are times that you just do not want to be disturbed, that should not be a hard concept for you to understand. And just because something is not on the news, does not mean it has not happened. There have been people posting that the WDW room "inspectors" have come around while they were sleeping. Besides, I see the cruise as a bit different. You spend a bit more time in your room on the cruise then at WDW, where you are at the parks most of the day. I go back frequently to my room when I cruise, either to rest or change and shower after swimming, etc.

 

[DCSWO]

I don’t think I could do 18 hours straight in a hotel room...

 

[squirk]

And just because something is not on the news, does not mean it has not happened. There have been people posting that the WDW room "inspectors" have come around while they were sleeping.

Yes, but my point was that if it had been a widespread problem, there would have been an uproar on social media about it. Maybe if there are more incidences like what happened to @phinz, there will be, and Disney will adjust. That's the kind of bad press that will have an impact on sales.

Besides, I see the cruise as a bit different. You spend a bit more time in your room on the cruise then at WDW, where you are at the parks most of the day. I go back frequently to my room when I cruise, either to rest or change and shower after swimming, etc.

Agreed, and it's true that it would be a lot harder, if not impossible, for a guest to stockpile weapons in a stateroom like Stephen Paddock did in in that Vegas hotel room. I just don't think this is "the end of privacy", or that CMs are going to come into your stateroom just for ****s and giggles. I think they just want a common understanding among all parties that if DCL has a good-faith reason to believe that something fishy or unsafe is going on, they have the right and ability to investigate.