BWV and scooters in hallways

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KAT4DISNEY

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Scooters do fit in the rooms. Two of course would not. But someone sees someone else parking in the hall and figures what a great idea to not lose that space in the room. I've actually been surprised that Disney resorts allow it as I do think it's an egress issue in the worst case of needing to evacuate in a smoke filled hallway.
 

tb1972

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I've noticed the housekeeping carts struggle to get through the halls with all the scooters.

I wonder why BWV has so much trouble with the congested halls but other resorts don't seem to have as much of an issue? We've stayed at the Poly, BCV, GF and haven't noticed near as many. OKW doesn't have hallways so parking outside the room doorway doesn't block other guests as much.
 

suemom2kay

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I've noticed the housekeeping carts struggle to get through the halls with all the scooters.

I wonder why BWV has so much trouble with the congested halls but other resorts don't seem to have as much of an issue? We've stayed at the Poly, BCV, GF and haven't noticed near as many. OKW doesn't have hallways so parking outside the room doorway doesn't block other guests as much.
I was at BWV in 2 different rooms on two different floors and didn’t notice any scooters. Maybe just lucky?
 
  • Cyberc1978

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    IMO when people starts to park in the hallways it starts to become an annoyance and inconvenience to most others.

    I don’t know how Disney should regulate the use of scooters but one way could be to use the same SOP as for DAS in the parks.

    That way if you can’t proof that you actually need the scooter then you won’t be allowed to use it in the resorts.

    The same should go for service animals, if you have a need for them, if you can barely see then they should be allowed. But the way emotional support animals are being misused is actually horrible for the people that actual do need them.

    Maybe less people will visit Disney, but it’s the same when Disney increases the prices on ticket, some might choose not to come. It’s fine.

    Everyone is welcome, but everyone also need to take responsibility, don’t take advantage of rules or lack hereof just because you can.
     

    BillPA

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    Another one that I hope needs a scooter someday. And you have to wait for the 3 or 4 bus to get to the park, and you can't get on ride XYZ because the scooter can't fit. Or maybe you can just grow up and be glad you can still walk.
     

    moericus

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    Another one that I hope needs a scooter someday. And you have to wait for the 3 or 4 bus to get to the park, and you can't get on ride XYZ because the scooter can't fit. Or maybe you can just grow up and be glad you can still walk.
    This is silly. It is the people that need help that should be leading this charge. Instead some are criticizing anyone that dares bring this up.

    People are taking advantage of these rules. That is not a mean or offensive statement and it is way too obvious to be denied.

    I hope you enjoy WDW many more times and if I see you there then by all means take my place in line.
     

    KAT4DISNEY

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    This is silly. It is the people that need help that should be leading this charge. Instead some are criticizing anyone that dares bring this up.

    People are taking advantage of these rules. That is not a mean or offensive statement and it is way too obvious to be denied.

    I hope you enjoy WDW many more times and if I see you there then by all means take my place in line.
    I don't know of any "rules" about who can use scooters though. There's also a difference in chiding people for breaking rules when there are none vs wishing there were some rules established. IMO it would be discriminatory to establish any. What would be nice is to remember that people have different needs and reasons for using assistance and let it stay at that. It does not mean there can't be things like rules on where scooters are parked when not in use of course. There apparently aren't too many rules established about that at the resorts though there are within the parks.
     

    moericus

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    To be honest I haven't researched it...

    but I'm pretty sure there is a rule that I can't store my larger suitcases in the hallway. They're inconvenient to me in the room.

    This is what happens. One person takes advantage of good will and then it escalates to an unsustainable level.
     

    SL6827

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    Nasty comment and just plain mean. Did you ever think these poor people can’t move or exercise causing a weight problem. It could happen to you.
    Thank you. I have a 23-year-old daughter who has the spine of a 70-year-old. We are fixing to start the SSI process for her. It is hard for her to exercise because she is in pain, therefore gaining weight. You would never know by looking at her, she has a major disability. And we found out the other day, my 14-year-old's spine is bad as well.
     

    Tink10

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    I just wanted to add that I meant no disrespect for anyone using scooters, who need them physically or medically....whether you can see a disability or not. At one time in my life, while you couldn't tell, I had almost no use of my dominate arm...and people couldn't tell, so I get the frustration of having an issue that can't be seen.

    I, like many think it's just grossly abused based on a lot of scooter antics that are seen in the parks. I used my SIL as an example of what I'm sure, is taking place with so many.

    We've been almost run over by scooters, been yelled at by scooter drivers saying "Can't you see I'm in a scooter?!?!?!"

    Well no, if you're behind me, I cannot see that and I really cannot see anyone needing a scooter, hollering at people, as they know how to navigate with them pretty well.

    Maybe it might be a good idea to change the subject to getting whacked by light sabers being waved around or those God awful bubble machines... :darth:
     

    Disney_Bliss

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    What a touchy subject, and I hope everyone can at least understand both sides. While able-bodied individuals may scoff at those who "appear" to be without a disability using a scooter, it was mentioned in the thread there are no rules that say who can and cannot use them. I agree that having them provide clutter in a hallway that was not designed to accommodate them properly is a challenge, but WDW, nor anyone for that matter, could have predicted this trend. To those who are truly in need of the assistance, you have my empathy and understanding, even if it requires parking in the hallway due to no space in your room. To those who use them as a convenience only, it is your choice but understand that you are causing potential inconvenience to others with no real cause to do so. I suppose those who are fortunate enough to not need them (and do not use them anyway), be happy that you are able to get along without assistance, and try to look the other way at those who are also able-bodied but choose the scooter convenience.
     

    Disney_Bliss

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    Maybe it might be a good idea to change the subject to getting whacked by light sabers being waved around or those God awful bubble machines... :darth:
    Or my favorite - groups that stop in the middle of the walkways of a crowded park when they are not sure where they want to go next, causing a bottleneck.
     

    serenitynow

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    I just wanted to add that I meant no disrespect for anyone using scooters, who need them physically or medically....whether you can see a disability or not. At one time in my life, while you couldn't tell, I had almost no use of my dominate arm...and people couldn't tell, so I get the frustration of having an issue that can't be seen.

    I, like many think it's just grossly abused based on a lot of scooter antics that are seen in the parks. I used my SIL as an example of what I'm sure, is taking place with so many.

    We've been almost run over by scooters, been yelled at by scooter drivers saying "Can't you see I'm in a scooter?!?!?!"

    Well no, if you're behind me, I cannot see that and I really cannot see anyone needing a scooter, hollering at people, as they know how to navigate with them pretty well.

    Maybe it might be a good idea to change the subject to getting whacked by light sabers being waved around or those God awful bubble machines... :darth:
    Bubble machines - I hate them! Even when used correctly, ie not pointing them at people while firing, they still make the ground slick. Why oh why does Disney sell these things in the park. They don’t sell water guns or squirters, so why toys that shoot and drip liquid soap bubbles?
     

    pavicich

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    The solution would be in the next refurb to try to design enough space into the room for it. Since I would prefer that not happen I am fine with them in the hallway!!
     

    crisi

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    The solution would be in the next refurb to try to design enough space into the room for it. Since I would prefer that not happen I am fine with them in the hallway!!
    The solution is to rent a room that has enough space for your scooters, just like we rent a room for enough space for our luggage, our kids, my husband to work - not make it Disney's problem - or the problem of other guests.
     

    piccolopat

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    Nasty comment and just plain mean. Did you ever think these poor people can’t move or exercise causing a weight problem. It could happen to you.
    I don't consider an honest observation to be a mean or nasty comment. The PP is correct is stating that a high percentage of scooter riders are large. Thankfully I've never needed a scooter but I have been obese most of my life, a condition I am working hard to change. I joined Weightwatchers almost a year ago and have lost 63 pounds so far (92 from my highest) and that is without any exercise. Mobility problems may prevent someone from exercising but much can be done to lose weight solely by making better food choices and limiting portions. So many stories on the WW community forum are about people that are now off their blood pressure and cholesterol medication, no longer have Type 2 diabetes, etc. The emphasis in this country should be about ways to improve health. We would save a fortune in health care costs if we did and peoples' quality of life would be much better. I think we should increase taxes on fast food and add taxes to manufactured and prepared foods. The tax money should then be put back into the system to make fresh fruits, vegetables, lean protein sources, whole grains and healthful fats affordable to more people. Sorry to get off track here.
     

    piccolopat

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    Scooters are invaluable to people with disabilities but they can also be helpful to people without disabilities who find that walking the many miles of Disney a bit too much. People may not like that non-disabled guests can also use a scooter but there is nothing wrong with it.

    As for the OPs situation, I believe Disney needs to make all guests aware at check in that all personal property (and that includes scooters) must be in their room and not left in public spaces including hallways. Disney can and should move scooters that are left in hallways so they don't impede foot traffic or affect other guests' resort experience. All it takes is for one scooter to prevent someone else on a scooter or a family with a double stroller from passing by. Disney should also make certain that all rooms have an easily accessible plug for charging scooters. I believe they already will remove furniture on request to make it easier to store the scooter in a room.
     
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