For What It's Worth .... We were at Epcot on Thursday, October 4th ( 1 pm to 9 pm) and Saturday, October 13th (at Rope Drop). The number of drunks stumbling around both days told us that we will never go to Epcot again during F & W. Understandably, there were a lot of them before/after Illuminations on the 4th, but the surprise was at 12:30 pm on the 13th, about 90 minutes after F & W began! Maneuvering from Germany around to Canada, we saw at least 20 different women in staggering/falling-down-drunk condition! We couldn't wait to get out of Epcot! ... And yes, I sincerely believe that Walt Disney was turning over in his grave at what has become of his dream!