Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

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Dragging through the courts will take time and money, but it's probably the right move.
It’s the only option and it’s absolutely not the side Disney wants to be on (remember, they want to be the “reopening safely,” “face masks,” “distance,” etc... guys) but it’s their only option. And even so, it’s far from a guarantee it goes their way.

It’s also worth noting that PR-wise Newsom is in a better position, given that new cases are skyrocketing in many other parts of the country except CA. Public “pressure” just doesn’t seem to be there outside of the Disney fan community, CMs, and Anaheim/nearby OC locals. People just don’t really care.
 
It’s also worth noting that PR-wise Newsom is in a better position, given that new cases are skyrocketing in many other parts of the country except CA. Public “pressure” just doesn’t seem to be there outside of the Disney fan community, CMs, and Anaheim/nearby OC locals. People just don’t really care.
Like I said before though Anaheim and anyone working for DL certainly cares. If nothing changes there is no doubt more layoffs will happen and Anaheim will be in deep financial trouble.
 
I know this will get quickly buried here but someone asked about ABC commissary. MO works the same as everywhere else and you can take the food outside to eat. This is the fish tacos, really good, extra points to dhs for improving the offerings
 

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My kids have also been to about half the states, countless WDW and DL trips, but have also lived in 4 diff states (AK, NE, TX, NY). They've loved all the trips we've taken, and are anything but indifferent to Disney. While they're excited about going back to HI, to Europe, etc, Disney (esp WDW) is still their favorite place to vacation.

However, I do think that the future world section of EPCOT doesn't have the same impact as it had in decades past now that we all have so much of this "futuristic" technology at our fingertips. I was watching The Imagineering Story again recently and it showed kids using touch screens at EPCOT. It really struck me how many of the things we considered "science fiction" 20, 30 years ago (or even less) are now mundane, how difficult it must be to try to keep future world interesting and engaging for today's audience, and how difficult it would be to install attractions there that don't quickly become obsolete. I think the rapid advancements in accessible technology are part of why our family has always spent so little time in future world. Luckily, all the other things at Disney (being transported to these fantastical lands, being able to stay "in HI," having the characters come to life) are still engaging and magical for our kids.
To be fair he's a Disneyland lover and would rather go there over WDW (and hit the beach in SoCal while there) but really he's pretty meh about WDW vacations at the moment, probably because we are coming off an AP year and went a lot. I don't blame him, so many other cool places in the world to see.

I didn't go to WDW (grew up going to DL) until my 30s so I am missing a lot of nostalgia others have. Wish I could have seen EPCOT in it's glory days! Sad the transformation is being impacted too.
 
Like I said before though Anaheim and anyone working for DL certainly cares. If nothing changes there is no doubt more layoffs will happen and Anaheim will be in deep financial trouble.
I absolutely agree. And the consequences are going to be grim to say the least, but I don’t see that story/angle getting picked up by the national media.
 
the idea of sort of doubling down on Florida operations being a safe and attractive destinationa nd marketing it, etc. is interesting ... though for that to work they need to be confident in things not getting worse in Florida and actually do something legit for the 50th.

I was thinking about this also.

World was open when Florida was going through almost 10,000 cases a day and they made it through with no problems. I really dont see any scenario of World shutting down again.

So do they try to double down here in Florida?

Maybe open more things, increase capacity, etc.....

Agreed also they will have to do it as safely as possible but I am wondering now if they know DL will be closed for a long time if they take a little more risk here in Florida.
 
Like I said before though Anaheim and anyone working for DL certainly cares. If nothing changes there is no doubt more layoffs will happen and Anaheim will be in deep financial trouble.

People only care when it’s their livelihood impacted. You know who cares about the 28,000 people that were laid off? Disney fans. The people that are called obsessive and pathetic because of their love for the theme parks and everything that comes with the company. I havent seen a single person outside of the Disney community on any social media platform come to the aide of these CMs, spreading the word of these causes to help, its all finger pointing at Disney for laying these CMs off, and executives reclaiming their salary’s.

All we’ve heard since March is We’re all “In this together”, except we’re not. Because if we were, people would have jobs to go back to at this point. And that doesn’t just go for Disney. Businesses large and small are closing left and right all across the country because they’re not allowed to open.
 
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