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I wasn't sure it was a good idea either. I sent your response to DH (he is asleep right now).

I don't know for sure because he was the one trying tonight, but I think he was trying to make a schedule for payments and it declined him after he got through all of the steps. We tried previously with a Visa card that we already had and he made it sound like it worked.

I’d try variations of the name...

First Land
1st Land (?)
Furstland

Also, try sending a test payment with MasterCard to get it established then go back and switch it to visa. Mortgages are allowed on MC.
 
Thanks to all who suggested imgur! That is so easy and works for posting here on the DIS! Yay! It's so OT so I'll only post two pics. I can't post the video of her entering because I guess that doesn't work on imgur but she came in to "It's a Great, Big, Beautiful Tomorrow" and for a kid who could barely walk a year ago, she walked at a nice pace...looked like she never had mobility issues...So happy about that. Anyways, a pic of a BFF and their decorated caps and she & I (yes, puffy eyes and all...I skipped makeup so I didn't look like a raccoon...You ladies know what I mean!).

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I wasn't sure it was a good idea either. I sent your response to DH (he is asleep right now).

It’s a really bad idea. Plastiq has your billing address from your credit card. If you try to send a check to yourself, Plastiq can put two and two together. Many churners have tried and got caught. A lot of times, it’s a stern email saying payments to yourself or individuals are prohibited, but you do not want to draw attention to your account or ruin this service for yourself.

What you’re suggesting is essentially manufactured spending (“MS”), which Plastiq does not allow. If you send a payment to yourself, there’s nothing Plastiq can do to make sure you don’t just deposit their check into your account to pay off the bill for the credit card that you used to fund the payment in the first place. Many credit card agreements also prohibit activities that can be described as MS. Plastiq makes a lot of effort to prevent and catch MS, comply with credit card guidelines, and basically stay legit with the credit card networks they process your payments on. We all benefit from this because when a Plastiq charge posts to our credit cards, it’s presumed legitimate, earns points and counts towards MSR.

Now, you might be thinking, what’s the difference between paying yourself, which is prohibited by Plastiq and the credit card companies, and finding a workaround to paying your mortgage, which is prohibited by Visa and Amex? Plausible deniability on the latter. Plastiq supports mortgage payments on Mastercards and Discover, and the process for setting up a payment is the same as for Visa and Amex. Since there’s no uniform way to set up a new Recipient, you might just have formatted it in such a way that doesn’t exactly match what Plastiq has for that mortgage company that you can’t pay with a Visa or Amex. If it slips through, it was a simple mistake; if it doesn’t work or is caught later on, now you know and it was always YMMV.
 
It’s a really bad idea. Plastiq has your billing address from your credit card. If you try to send a check to yourself, Plastiq can put two and two together. Many churners have tried and got caught. A lot of times, it’s a stern email saying payments to yourself or individuals are prohibited, but you do not want to draw attention to your account or ruin this service for yourself.

What you’re suggesting is essentially manufactured spending (“MS”), which Plastiq does not allow. If you send a payment to yourself, there’s nothing Plastiq can do to make sure you don’t just deposit their check into your account to pay off the bill for the credit card that you used to fund the payment in the first place. Many credit card agreements also prohibit activities that can be described as MS. Plastiq makes a lot of effort to prevent and catch MS, comply with credit card guidelines, and basically stay legit with the credit card networks they process their payments on. We all benefit from this because when a Plastiq charge posts to our credit cards, it’s presumed legitimate, earns points and counts towards MSR.

Now, you might be thinking, what’s the difference between paying yourself, which is prohibited by Plastiq and the credit card companies, and finding a workaround to paying your mortgage, which is prohibited by Visa and Amex? Plausible deniability on the latter. Plastiq supports mortgage payments on Mastercards and Discover, and the process for setting up a payment is the same as for Visa and Amex. Since there’s no uniform way to set up a new Recipient, you might just have formatted it in such a way that doesn’t exactly match what Plastiq has for that mortgage company that you can’t pay with a Visa or Amex. If it slips through, it was a simple mistake; if it doesn’t work or is caught later on, now you know and it was always YMMV.

I'm curious what stops people from sending plastiq checks to a family member?? I know plastiq can always ask for documentation of a bill but do you ever read of people doing this? I have two aunts who are TA's. I'm sure one would make up a bill if I asked. I don't need anyone to nor have I seriously considered it. I'm just curious I guess if plastiq could catch something like that. If I could repeatedly make payments on a vacation and have it code 3x on my CIP, that would be pretty sweet. I'm too scared to ever actually do it but it's fun to think of being that kind of risk taker lol!
 
I'm curious what stops people from sending plastiq checks to a family member?? I know plastiq can always ask for documentation of a bill but do you ever read of people doing this? I have two aunts who are TA's. I'm sure one would make up a bill if I asked. I don't need anyone to nor have I seriously considered it. I'm just curious I guess if plastiq could catch something like that. If I could repeatedly make payments on a vacation and have it code 3x on my CIP, that would be pretty sweet. I'm too scared to ever actually do it but it's fun to think of being that kind of risk taker lol!

@Albort? :scratchin

I’m not saying Plastiq is squeaky clean. People do try to abuse it. And Plastiq tries to catch them. But the schemes are often more creative than just having a check sent to yourself.
 


Oh, since we’ve taken a small tangent into talking about Plastiq, I ran into a Plastiq employee at the Costco food court the other day. Like most techies, he was wearing a t-shirt with the company logo on it, and their office is about a block from the Costco in SF.
 
@wendow - your daughter is beautiful, and how are you old enough to be the mother of an adult?! You two are beaming!

You are sweet and I thank you for the compliment :) What is funny is how much she and I look alike in that pic. Crazy! She looks like my hubby, not me!! My other dd is my mini me...not this one...But I saw this pic and almost fell over at how much she looks like me here. Here are my two dd's:
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You are sweet and I thank you for the compliment :) What is funny is how much she and I look alike in that pic. Crazy! She looks like my hubby, not me!! My other dd is my mini me...not this one...But I saw this pic and almost fell over at how much she looks like me here. Here are my two dd's:

Seriously, your eldest is the spitting image of you in that pic. The eyes, smile, cheeks, even the chin and face shape.
 
I'm curious what stops people from sending plastiq checks to a family member?? I know plastiq can always ask for documentation of a bill but do you ever read of people doing this? I have two aunts who are TA's. I'm sure one would make up a bill if I asked. I don't need anyone to nor have I seriously considered it. I'm just curious I guess if plastiq could catch something like that. If I could repeatedly make payments on a vacation and have it code 3x on my CIP, that would be pretty sweet. I'm too scared to ever actually do it but it's fun to think of being that kind of risk taker lol!

@Albort? :scratchin

I’m not saying Plastiq is squeaky clean. People do try abuse it. And Plastiq tries to catch them. But the schemes are often more creative than just having a check sent to yourself.

honestly, nothing is stopping people from doing that but at certain conditions, it will work. There is nothing stopping someone from creating a rental contract with your spouse and then u just send checks... just dont abuse it. the more you abuse, the more things are likely to shut down. heck, im abusing it myself... i dont heavily abuse it though.

also a very good reason why a lot of things remain lowkey... i mean, ive seen a few ppl talk about not being able to pay their mortgage with plastiq... i dont reply with the answer simply because it may go bye bye if too many ppl know...
There is still a lot out there that have remained hidden... :] i knew a few, but ive been sworn to secrecy... :| lol
 
honestly, nothing is stopping people from doing that but at certain conditions, it will work. There is nothing stopping someone from creating a rental contract with your spouse and then u just send checks... just dont abuse it. the more you abuse, the more things are likely to shut down. heck, im abusing it myself... i dont heavily abuse it though.

also a very good reason why a lot of things remain lowkey... i mean, ive seen a few ppl talk about not being able to pay their mortgage with plastiq... i dont reply with the answer simply because it may go bye bye if too many ppl know...
There is still a lot out there that have remained hidden... :] i knew a few, but ive been sworn to secrecy... :| lol

I hear you, Albort. I agree we have to be really careful what we share out here on the open board. Abusing by so many is what gets all our tricks shut down. It's what happened with GC churning. Of course, there is always the DISchurners reddit group for sharing this type of info :D
 
@amalone1013 your the only one i know with samsung pay. anyone else with samsung pay, theres a use ur eligible chase card with samsung pay, get a $10 amazon gc.
I thnink between this and the paypal offer I'm going to make DH use Samsung Pay a few times.

ETA: hmmm, make three purchases... what if I just make 3 purchases at the vending machine throughout the work day? Three bottles of water at 35 cents! :laughing:

For those that do Samsung Pay, if you link your PayPal you get $5. It has goofy requirements, like you have to pay with your paypal account via Samsung pay, and link a bank account so it will automatically withdraw the amount you set to top off your paypal account if there's not enough to cover your purchase. And it has to be used within 14 days.

I'll do it once for $5 lol, I'll probably buy a $15 Disney gift card or something.
The other night I bought a $15 Disney gc at Kroger in self checkout, I could see immediately that Paypal just pulled $10 from my account I have linked (my travel savings account with Ally, haha).
 
Is it just Firstland? How do you actually address the first line to mail the check? Easiest thing to try is separate First Land. If that doesn't go through, we can put on our thinking caps. We've been able to get most through with some work around.
We actually don't send checks in. Right now they are just taking it directly out of our checking account. The whole company's name is Firstland Mortgage
 
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