ROFR Thread April to June 2024 *PLEASE SEE FIRST POST FOR INSTRUCTIONS & FORMATTING TOOL*

[Chili327]

Minnie84---$108-$12462-100-BWV-Jun-0/23, 200/24, 100/25- sent 4/10

That's a beauty.!!

 

[Minnie84]

That's a beauty.!!

I know!!! Thanks! We are pretty excited for it! Fingers crossed.

 

[ClaraOswald]

Because of the value. Low point charts, close to Disney Springs, low dues, great rooms, 4 pools, and BCV, BWV, BRV, HHI, VB and OKW will be 8 years from expiring….

I assume this was just a typo and you meant 18, right?

 

[AstroBlasters]

Re: https://www.disboards.com/threads/r...uctions-formatting-tool.3936707/post-65385799

VGC ROFR passed on 03/18 and then I become finally a member today. It took 2 years to be a member really after I knew DVC while watching stock market's down and up, waiting for vdh, considering aul for SAP, researching other vacation clubs and etc. Finally, I decided to buy vgc resale and westin vacation resale. I will buy vdh direct as well sooner or later.

No points are loaded yet. Based on search here, it would take more time to be loaded, like 60 days after closing.
Thanks all for help and useful information shared here.

Welcome Home, neighbor!

 

[Shoktherapy]

I assume this was just a typo and you meant 18, right?

No - because I said “In 10 years SSR will be a hot commodity…”. 18-10 = 8 . But thanks for checking my math - I am usually wrong. Lol

 

[RachStu]

RachStu---$116-$25933-200-RIV-Dec-403/23, 197/24, 200/25-International buyer- sent 4/10

Holy moly, I was casually looking for a friend to show them the bargains available on the resale market and ended up bidding for this one myself! The 403 points will be rented as soon as the contract is in our names and once we get to December I’ll rent the 2024 and 2025 points. That’ll recoup more than half the outlay.

 

[Chili327]

Angelphace---$116-$25933-200-RIV-Dec-403/23, 197/24, 200/25-International buyer- sent 4/10

Holy moly, I was casually looking for a friend to show them the bargains available on the resale market and ended up bidding for this one myself! The 403 points will be rented as soon as the contract is in our names and once we get to December I’ll rent the 2024 and 2025 points. That’ll recoup more than half the outlay.

I’m confused… who is AngelPhace??

 

[RachStu]

I’m confused… who is AngelPhace??

Whoops, that’s my Dibb board name . Now amended!

 

[lilsonicfan]

RachStu---$116-$25933-200-RIV-Dec-403/23, 197/24, 200/25-International buyer- sent 4/10

Holy moly, I was casually looking for a friend to show them the bargains available on the resale market and ended up bidding for this one myself! The 403 points will be rented as soon as the contract is in our names and once we get to December I’ll rent the 2024 and 2025 points. That’ll recoup more than half the outlay.

Great way to recoup some of your initial purchase. You can probably rent the 2024 points sooner since you can do 11 mth rentals into 2025 at this point (which would be in the Dec 2024 UY)

 

[AstroBlasters]

No - because I said “In 10 years SSR will be a hot commodity…”. 18-10 = 8 . But thanks for checking my math - I am usually wrong. Lol

I think SSR has too many outstanding points and owners who bought it for SAP that don’t want to stay there to ever be a hot commodity.

A hot commodity (BCV/VGC) requires scarcity and location.

 

[CastAStone]

Because of the value. Low point charts, close to Disney Springs, low dues, great rooms, 4 pools, and BCV, BWV, BRV, HHI, VB and OKW will be 8 years from expiring….

I agree with all of that except the part where the value will be higher. If enough people valued those things it would be baked into the price already.

It will still be physically massive, have multiple bus stops, and no walking or non-bus transportation to a park. People (in aggregate) value those things more than 5 pools (including the THV one), great rooms, low(ish) dues, Disney Springs, 3 QS restaurants, on-site golf, etc.

And SSR will be 20 years from expiring. The 2042s prices started to decouple from “the rest of them” at about 25 years left, and it’s gotten more aggressive inside of 20 years.

 

[ClaraOswald]

No - because I said “In 10 years SSR will be a hot commodity…”. 18-10 = 8 . But thanks for checking my math - I am usually wrong. Lol

Ah, thanks. I forgot it was in reference to the earlier post.

I agree with all of that except the part where the value will be higher. If enough people valued those things it would be baked into the price already.

It will still be physically massive, have multiple bus stops, and no walking or non-bus transportation to a park. People (in aggregate) value those things more than 5 pools (including the THV one), great rooms, low(ish) dues, Disney Springs, 3 QS restaurants, on-site golf, etc.

And SSR will be 20 years from expiring. The 2042s prices started to decouple from “the rest of them” at about 25 years left, and it’s gotten more aggressive inside of 20 years.

Yeah, I think in a non-Disney resort...those things (pools, great rooms, etc.) hold a lot more value. But at WDW, the places with better transportation/closeness to parks will always hold more value, even as they get near their expiration dates.

 

[Shoktherapy]

No - because I said “In 10 years SSR will be a hot commodity…”. 18-10 = 8

I agree with all of that except the part where the value will be higher. If enough people valued those things it would be baked into the price already.

It will still be physically massive, have multiple bus stops, and no walking or non-bus transportation to a park. People (in aggregate) value those things more than 5 pools (including the THV one), great rooms, low(ish) dues, Disney Springs, 3 QS restaurants, on-site golf, etc.

And SSR will be 20 years from expiring. The 2042s prices started to decouple from “the rest of them” at about 25 years left, and it’s gotten more aggressive inside of 20 years.

Respectfully disagree with most of this and would politely ask if you have ever stayed at SSR? Most of us don’t value bus transportation over pools, great decor with low key theme-ing, lowish dues etc no matter large it may seem. Its actually not that large when you know what sections to stay in. Most of us (and a growing majority) that actually know the resort Uber/lyft or Minnie Van to the resorts, if we don’t rent vehicles. The appeal of the resort is more for the Disney Adult which I believe is becoming increasingly more popular. As far as the pricing I don’t believe it will follow the previous trends as future buyers will shy away from the shorter contract properties and look for something longer duration and with better availability. GFV and PVB just is getting harder and harder to book even at 11 months. That is going to leave BLT, AKL and SSR as the only options.

 

[Sandisw]

Respectfully disagree with most of this and would politely ask if you have ever stayed at SSR? Most of us don’t value bus transportation over pools, great decor with low key theme-ing, lowish dues etc no matter large it may seem. Its actually not that large when you know what sections to stay in. Most of us (and a growing majority) that actually know the resort Uber/lyft or Minnie Van to the resorts, if we don’t rent vehicles. The appeal of the resort is more for the Disney Adult which I believe is becoming increasingly more popular. As far as the pricing I don’t believe it will follow the previous trends as future buyers will shy away from the shorter contract properties and look for something longer duration and with better availability. GFV and PVB just is getting harder and harder to book even at 11 months. That is going to leave BLT, AKL and SSR as the only options.

I own there and have stayed there. The best we can hope for in 10 years is that it stabilizes around $50s.

The other piece is that in 10 years, there will still be several near park resorts to choose from, including restricted properties of RIV and CFW, and any other resorts DVD decides to open.

I also own VGF and RIV, and getting 11 month bookings is not hard, especially now with the resort studios, outside of the normal busy DVC times, but it is mainly the early December time that makes it the hardest...more so for SV rooms. If you are traveling outside of that, owning VGF and I am going to guess PVB (which does not have a home resort booking issue), those will still be good choices.

So, what will a buyer be able to choose in 10 years, if we take out the 2042 resorts? OKW E, CCV, BLT, VGF, PVB, AKV, and SSR...for trading...and RIV, CFW, and others...for one resort.

Given all of that, people are not going to choose to spend more for SSR when there are still options near the parks that they will be able to get. SSR has always priced much lower and all of those things you mention are there now....and people simply don't find its value compared to the others.

My guess, TBH, is that all resale pricing is going to be depressed when the 2042 resorts get under the 10 year mark, and DVD has added more properties that make direct a better choice.

 

[Shoktherapy]

Exciting! If you got your membership/club ID emails today, it probably will take about a week to load points unless you contact Member Services say a couple of days from now and then they might be willing to load them manually for you.

I used the chat feature 2 days after my I got my Club ID email. Of course I was trying to book a trip so I sort of in a hurry to get my points, but the CMs were super nice.

 

[Chili327]

That is going to leave BLT, AKL and SSR as the only options.

And CCV.

 

[Shoktherapy]

I own there and have stayed there. The best we can hope for in 10 years is that it stabilizes around $50s.

The other piece is that in 10 years, there will still be several near park resorts to choose from, including restricted properties of RIV and CFW, and any other resorts DVD decides to open.

I also own VGF and RIV, and getting 11 month bookings is not hard, especially now with the resort studios, outside of the normal busy DVC times, but it is mainly the early December time that makes it the hardest...more so for SV rooms. If you are traveling outside of that, owning VGF and I am going to guess PVB (which does not have a home resort booking issue), those will still be good choices.

So, what will a buyer be able to choose in 10 years, if we take out the 2042 resorts? OKW E, CCV, BLT, VGF, PVB, AKV, and SSR...for trading...and RIV, CFW, and others...for one resort.

Given all of that, people are not going to choose to spend more for SSR when there are still options near the parks that they will be able to get. SSR has always priced much lower and all of those things you mention are there now....and people simply don't find its value compared to the others.

My guess, TBH, is that all resale pricing is going to be depressed when the 2042 resorts get under the 10 year mark, and DVD has added more properties that make direct a better choice.

The one issue is that all times are getting “busy”. I think that is seriously playing into bookings getting increasingly harder Bottom line ya’lls speculation is no better than my speculation I am obviously alot more optimistic about it. Time will tell how this plays out but there is a part of me that hopes that people continue to undervalue SSR and stays away from it, keeping the resale cost low. I just don’t think it will remain that way.

And CCV.

Yes - sorry! Didn’t mean to disrespect you and your recent acquisition like that

 

[Chili327]

Yes - sorry! Didn’t mean to disrespect you and your recent acquisition like that

Nope, I don’t own CCV.
Just should probably be included in what will be left available after 2042.

 

[AstroBlasters]

The one issue is that all times are getting “busy”. I think that is seriously playing into bookings getting increasingly harder Bottom line ya’lls speculation is no better than my speculation I am obviously alot more optimistic about it. Time will tell how this plays out but there is a part of me that hopes that people continue to undervalue SSR and stays away from it. I just don’t think it will remain that way.

I’m glad you love SSR, but it has the most outstanding points of any DVC resort and the most units available by a large margin.

Therefore it will always be the easiest resort to book and have most outstanding points available on the resale market.

SSR 14m points, 600 units
CCV 3.31m, 184 units (including cabins)
BLT 5.7m, 281 units
OKW 7.7m, 531 units
BOTH AKV 7.4m, 458 units
VGF 4.3m, 300 units

 

[Shoktherapy]

I’m glad you love SSR…

Till I die…