Thanks for the tips! Going to be using G+ for the first time next month. It seems like you need to be screen watching a lot. I like going to Disney as a distraction from life including from having to look at my phone. Did having to monitor your phone impact the Disney magic?
I still dont get this whole gotta watch phone all day that people get into their heads.

Only time you need to be on your phone for g+ is when you are booking one. Its not like you need to walk around searching for a g+ time all the time. Either right after you ride a ride, during the q after you tap in, or if you get into a 2 hour cool down and its been 2 hours since your last ride do you need to be searching for a g+.

Sure you can constantly search I guess and keep trying to find a different ride or a better time etc, but I never felt the need to do that and didnt have any issues riding what we wanted. More go with the flow I guess, rode a ride, found the next closest/nearest g+ and off we went. Next one not for an hour? Great, lets get a snack, check out a shop, hit up a photo pass, whatever.
 
About how much did you spend daily for your group for Genie and all the ILL?
I added Genie+ as soon as it was available, so that was $15 per person per day (plus tax). I did pay for each of the ILL rides (FOP, 7DMT, ROTR and Remy) once. I didn't pay attention to the price on our days (it fluctuates) because I was going to do it no matter what. It was worth it to me- we rode on the days we wanted at convenient times without having to wait in long lines.
 
I still dont get this whole gotta watch phone all day that people get into their heads.

Only time you need to be on your phone for g+ is when you are booking one. Its not like you need to walk around searching for a g+ time all the time. Either right after you ride a ride, during the q after you tap in, or if you get into a 2 hour cool down and its been 2 hours since your last ride do you need to be searching for a g+.

Sure you can constantly search I guess and keep trying to find a different ride or a better time etc, but I never felt the need to do that and didnt have any issues riding what we wanted. More go with the flow I guess, rode a ride, found the next closest/nearest g+ and off we went. Next one not for an hour? Great, lets get a snack, check out a shop, hit up a photo pass, whatever.
Good to hear. That will be my plan as well. Cheers!
 
I did not feel glued to my phone... refreshing was a fun challenge when I was doing it, but I also made sure to put my phone away during rides, shows, meals etc.
Thanks for the follow up. Glad to know you can minimize the distraction. I have already purchased G+ and I am learning the strategies to best use it from other peoples experiences. Cheers.
 
The tarts have been missing at the French bakery since at least last June. My husband and I always get one, and it's not been available on any of our recent trips. Same thing with the caramel shoppe in Germany - many fewer items. I'm hoping the menus broaden back as the international staff returns and things get back to normal.
 
We found Genie + was very helpful at HS and MK. Finally getting better at stacking and that makes a huge difference.
Didn't need it at AK or EPCOT.
 
Anyways to end the trip, I was coughing and feeling rough on the drive home (which took longer than expected because of so much reckless driving causing accidents including one that I'm sure was fatal) so when I go home I took an at home covid test which was positive. Confirmed it this morning with a drive thru pharmacy test. Luckily I have had my 3 shots so hopefully it won't get any worse but seriously - I wore my mask everywhere except for when I was taking a picture or at a restaurant, washed my hands constantly and it wasn't good enough.
I had a great time with the exception of the dessert party and now the end of the trip Covid. What a way to end the trip.
Feel better! 🤗
 
About how much did you spend daily for your group for Genie and all the ILL?
I have gone back and looked at my credit card app so I can better answer your question. We did each the four ILL rides once. We were a party of five for all except 7DMT, only three of us did that one.

4/3 no ILL
4/4 FOP $58.60
4/5 ROTR $79.90
4/6 Remy $47.95
4/7 7DMT $31.95
4/8 no ILL

It's a lot of $ but was totally worth it for us. Our trips are four or more years apart and there is so much to do besides standing in line. We also don't like to RD every morning to avoid crazy waits.

Per previous post, I added genie+ to tickets prior to trip at $15 each per day (plus tax)
 
We just returned from a Land and Sea trip - 4 days in the parks (staying at OKW) and then a 3-night cruise on the Dream, April 4-11. It was a wonderful vacation!

A few highlights that I wanted to share, because I love reading this thread as my trips are approaching! We are typically rope drop people but as my girls get older we are more laid back. I really worried we would miss things, but with Genie+ and ILL it worked out so well. On our first day, we flew early so I got return times while waiting in the airport and again right after we landed. We took a private transportation company called "Away We Go" which dropped us off at Epcot and then took our bags to OKW. By the time we arrived at Epcot I had Test Track, Soarin and Remy booked. So we filled in with other rides while we were there. We did everything in the park BUT Frozen and Space, which was our plan. We very much enjoyed the show at Epcot!

Because it went so well the day before, we decided to sleep in/swim the next day with the same type of stacking for AK. I would get up at 7:15 and get a later return time and then reserve them every two hours until we went to the parks around 1/2 PM. In fact, the 7:17 drop was most beneficial for me - I was able to get what I wanted each day at that time. And at 7:17 it was less likely to be a different time after I clicked through. I just set an alarm for the next time to book and I didn't feel like I was on my phone much. We had a WONDERFUL breakfast at Olivia's, probably my favorite meal of the trip. Got to the park and already had FOP, Safari and Dinosaur booked (I think). We didn't even care to do Navi but one time it popped up so I grabbed it.

The one day we Rope Dropped was Magic Kingdom. That was the only day I felt the crowds were bad. After nearly getting ran over by strollers (we were in the very front of the rope drop at Tomorrowland) I decided that just wasn't worth the hassle. We did Space Mountain and Splash before park opening, and had return time for Jungle Cruise and Pirates. Then we took a mid-day break. After that point, I had several waiting on us that I had booked while at the resort. We managed to get all the major rides, including a return time for Peter Pan after we watched the fireworks (didn't care for them, but we love Happily Ever After). For me, it seemed like I lucked out or maybe I planned well because if I fiddled with it, I almost always got a return time for something I wanted. I did not book anything until it was what I wanted (meaning I didn't try to cancel and rebook, I figured I would rather hold out). We left the park that night around midnight, but could have done a 2nd ride on some of the big hitters with little wait times.

Our last day was Thursday and I think the storms helped us because we slept in (aside from 7:17 Rise and Slinky, then went back to sleep) and still managed to get every ride we wanted minus Smugglers. And we could have done standby but we were feeling sickly from all the other simulator rides. We booked Tower around lunch and found RnR around 2:30 which I didn't expect. I think people must have canceled and I found their scraps! My 13 yo daughter watched tons of Molly videos (All Ears) and helped me find things, so that was fun for us to do together.

We did 4 parks in 4 days - and 3 of those days were post-lunch arrivals. We only waited in one line, 20 minutes for Spaceship Earth when we first walked into Epcot. We have NEVER had a trip with fewer wait times. In fact, we said we sometimes needed more time in the queues to catch our breath!

Friday we took ground transportation to Port Canaveral, crossed our fingers for negative Covid tests, and then enjoyed 3 relaxing nights on the Dream. Low crowds there. I don't know the number but I know my girls did the Aquaduck 7 times in a row! Castaway was dreamy, as always.

Because Southwest changed our return flight we had ground transportation bring us back to OKW where they kept our luggage for a few hours at bell services. I wasn't sure this was going to work so I had the manager approve it first. They had no problem doing it. We took the boat to Disney Springs, spent a final day there, and then ubered back to the airport last night to fly home.

I know many people say Genie+ isn't worth it, but for our touring style and crowd levels, it was worth every penny. Check at 7:17 for the big rides, it worked every day for me. Relax at the resort or park hop and stack in the afternoon/evening if you want. We had very few ADRs so that helped us to be flexible, as well.
 
I have gone back and looked at my credit card app so I can better answer your question. We did each the four ILL rides once. We were a party of five for all except 7DMT, only three of us did that one.

4/3 no ILL
4/4 FOP $58.60
4/5 ROTR $79.90
4/6 Remy $47.95
4/7 7DMT $31.95
4/8 no ILL

It's a lot of $ but was totally worth it for us. Our trips are four or more years apart and there is so much to do besides standing in line. We also don't like to RD every morning to avoid crazy waits.

Per previous post, I added genie+ to tickets prior to trip at $15 each per day (plus tax)
Thanks for the added info! Yikes, I total it (including genie) as $727? Disney is not for the middle class anymore or it has a caste system now at least :( Or, I guess, if you only go every few years or so, it can be budgeted in.
 
Thanks for the added info! Yikes, I total it (including genie) as $727? Disney is not for the middle class anymore or it has a caste system now at least :( Or, I guess, if you only go every few years or so, it can be budgeted in.

It is definitely expensive.... but our trips are not frequent. We had a lot of fun watching shows and cavalcades, doing low wait attractions, enjoying meals etc in the hours that we saved every day not standing in lines. It was a fabulous trip! (We stayed at All Star Music and I posted some thoughts in that thread.)
 
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Thanks for the added info! Yikes, I total it (including genie) as $727? Disney is not for the middle class anymore or it has a caste system now at least :( Or, I guess, if you only go every few years or so, it can be budgeted in.

It is definitely expensive.... but our trips are not frequent. We had a lot of fun watching shows, cavalcades etc in the hours that we saved every day not standing in lines. It was a fabulous trip! (We stayed at All Star Music and I posted some thoughts in that thread.)

It’s a HUGE add. We are going this summer for eight nights and for our family of five, G+ added $640. If we did one individual Lightning Lane per day it would add another $400+ to our trip. So yeah, over $1000 more for what used to be free. Never mind the $160+ due to loss of Magical Express this year as well. All of this sadly shortened our trip from 10 nights to 8, and removed Park Hoppers, (for a far inferior system for us)

Dan
 
I found that Genie+ rides often showed earlier availability again between 7:05 and 7:10. I did very well with the 7:17 drop for ILL. I didn't pay attention to Genie+ rides at the 7:17 because I already had what I wanted.
Agreed. The Genie+ rides “dropped” earlier (7:08/10ish). The $ILL dropped at 7:17, although I still refreshed earlier just in case
 
Interesting…. I’m wondering if I shouldn’t even try at 7 am and just wait. The uncertainty of return time is soooo frustrating.
I would still try at 7, if you don’t like the time then don’t book and wait a few minutes. Just be warned that the time will change, sometimes even after you pay. It tends not to change as much (if at all) on the second “drop”
 
if you don’t like the time then don’t book and wait a few minutes.
Just be warned that the time will change, sometimes even after you pay.
You just totally contradicted yourself in back to back sentences, going back to the main point of the poster you quoted.

As you point out, you can get all the way through booking with a time that works, then you submit payment and your time becomes hours later for a time that doesn't.
 
You just totally contradicted yourself in back to back sentences, going back to the main point of the poster you quoted.

As you point out, you can get all the way through booking with a time that works, then you submit payment and your time becomes hours later for a time that doesn't.
Edited: I originally couldn’t see where you thought I contradicted myself, but think I see it now. I’ll list the rationale to book at either time.

7am booking:
1. I don’t trust Disney IT (things change) so preferred to get the booking done at 7am. It’s stressful waiting for the 7:17 drop, although I was successful each time
ETA (Apr18/22): Things have changed. There are still new drops but the timing has been inconsistent (7:08, 7:20, 7:25) the past few days.
2. Later times don’t shift as much so if you’re looking at afternoon/evening booking you should get close to what you want
3. If you don’t care about time then it’s locked in and you don’t have to worry about refreshing
4. You can always go to the blue umbrellas if your time shifts significantly after payment …it’s a known issue that they were happy to fix when I was there

Wait for the 7:17ish booking:
1. You absolutely need a morning time
2. You don’t want to deal with the blue umbrellas
3. IT glitches caused you to miss the 7am booking
4. You have more than one opportunity (day) to book so if for some reason the 7:17 drop doesn’t pan out you have another chance (I.e. take the risk of waiting until 7:17 to get the time you want vs taking whatever you get at 7am)

My comments/posts were more to reassure people that there was another drop of times every day of my trip (consistent with what others have experienced). That said, I still tried every morning at 7am. If times shown were already late or changing significantly between screens I wouldn’t book and would (nervously) wait until 7:17. If I didn’t care about the time or it wasn’t shifting significantly I booked.
Hope that clears things up.
 
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