Will WDW lift mask mandate?

[jamos14]

This story doesn’t make any sense. So four people who have all had the vaccine tested positive for COVID? If that is what is happening the vaccine would be worthless.

Agree. And this is purely anecdotal.

There is a large amount of evidence that all 3 approved vaccines "significantly reduce" transmission. One has been peer reviewed and published in New England Medical Journal CDC won't publicly endorse any of those studies until everybody has had chance to be vaccinated because of the headaches it will cause. I expect their guidance to change in early summer once vaccine is available to anybody that wants one.

 

[Eric Smith]

Yes exactly, serious disease and death.

We can agree to disagree. I have definitely seen posts from people who are clearly scared.

Concern isn't fear and it's dismissive to call it that.

 

[jamos14]

Not true at all. This has happened to many people. The vaccine does not prevent you contracting Covid. It helps prevent severe effects of Covid.

Incorrect. It does help prevent you from contracting COVID and spreading it. Significantly. Not 100% but incredibly effective.

Although the CDC guidance, for now, does not factor that in to consideration.

 

[Childs1stTime2Disney]

Incorrect. It does help prevent you from contracting COVID and spreading it. Significantly. Not 100% but incredibly effective.

Although the CDC guidance, for now, does not factor that in to consideration.

No one has made that claim at all. The only claim they will make is that it helps prevent severe disease. In fact, my parents two friends got the first vaccine a month ago. Before getting #2, they got Covid and one was hospitalized. The vaccine makers have not made the claims you state. They do not know yet.

 

[jamos14]

No one has made that claim at all. The only claim they will make is that it helps prevent severe disease. In fact, my parents two friends got the first vaccine a month ago. Before getting #2, they got Covid and one was hospitalized. The vaccine makers have not made the claims you state. They do not know yet.

I challenge you to spend 5 minutes and google it. There are countless articles from medical journals and studies in Israel and UK from Pfizer/AZ.

There have never been vaccines that have efficacy rates as high as these do that do not also significantly stop spread of disease.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/vacci...-even-before-2nd-shot-israeli-study-suggests/
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/...nsmission-protect-spread-virus-moderna-pfizer
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...mission-after-one-dose-uk-study-idUSKBN2AQ17L
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56145392
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-may-reduce-transmission

 

[Lewisc]

Purely speculation, but I expect the mask mandate to be lifted a few weeks before the 50th.

I think that would be a coincident. Disney won't wait until the 50th if CDC suggests dropping mask mandate sooner nor do I think Disney will jump the gun if CDC is still suggesting masks October 1.

I would not be surprised to see insurance companies put in exceptions for coverage for those who choose not to become vaccinated at some point. The cost for hospitalization can surpass $1MM in severe cases. Why should society pay for their gamble?

I'd be shocked. Using your logic coverage for lung cancer would be limited for smokers. Coverage for a variety of conditions would be limited for the morbidly obese etc.
Requiring vaccinations, probably not going to happen, is more likely then
Exclusions from health insurance

 

[Childs1stTime2Disney]

I challenge you to spend 5 minutes and google it. There are countless articles from medical journals and studies in Israel and UK from Pfizer/AZ.

There have never been vaccines that have efficacy rates as high as these do that do not also significantly stop spread of disease.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/vacci...-even-before-2nd-shot-israeli-study-suggests/
https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/...nsmission-protect-spread-virus-moderna-pfizer
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...mission-after-one-dose-uk-study-idUSKBN2AQ17L
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56145392
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-pfizer-vaccine-may-reduce-transmission

But you are stating that it prevents spread, and that may be true but they still have not made that claim yet which is why masks and distance must remain in place for the vaccinated. They don't know what it happen in the real world setting yet. Even still, it does not prevent you from GETTING Covid. They do state though, it prevents severe disease. The vaccine does not contain live or dead viral particles, either, since it's an MRNA vaccine.

 

[Kae]

So here is proof to what Dr. Fauci is saying: I recently had a doctor's appointment. The next day, my doctor called me to inform me that he and four others in the office tested positive for COVID and were asymptomatic. They still test every day. They all had been fully vaccinated. He wore a mask and I wore a mask but I still had to isolate for 6 days until I was eligible to get the PCR test, which was negative. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting the virus but does prevent you from getting ill. Dr. Fauci has repeatedly said that the mask mandate will be around for some time. You can have the virus even after being vaccinated, and not know it. President Biden says that there will be enough vaccines for every adult by May. However, roughly 31% of Americans (according to new PEW Research Poll) still say they won't get vaccinated. (Over 18 that means roughly 144 million will get it and 65 million will not.) So, by April, I think every adult who wants the shot will be able to get it. Pfizer's vaccine for children is estimated to be ready for FDA Emergency Use Authorization in September. Masks will still be required to protect the 65 million who choose not to get vaccinated and our kids who cannot get vaccinated yet. I think the CDC will relax other restrictions but not the mask mandate in public.

Sorry . The CDC dose not mandate anything.

 

[jamos14]

But you are stating that it prevents spread, and that may be true but they still have not made that claim yet which is why masks and distance must remain in place for the vaccinated. They just don't know how it will play out in the real world setting. Even still, it does not prevent you from GETTING Covid. They do state though, it prevents severe disease. The vaccine does not contain live or dead viral particles, either, since it's an MRNA vaccine.

I don't want to be argumentative but did you read any of the articles that I shared? They are all from real world settings. And yes, in these studies it stops ~90% of ALL cases (asymptomatic and symptomatic).

Yes, it also prevents severe disease and hospitalization.

What does your last sentence mean? I didn't reference anything about live/dead viral particles.


They (I'm assuming you mean CDC/vaccine manufacturers) have not made that claim because it is not proven without a doubt yet. Scientists won't do that without enough proper evidence. But as more and more American's become vaccinated, there will be enough data for them to confirm it.

 

[whiporee]

One sure way to shut this thread down is to turn in into a vaccine thread, so I'm going to ask that we try to stay away from that.

Do you think WDW will abandon the mask mandate if the CDC does? Or will they stay with it beyond it being public policy/suggestion?

 

[mi*vida*loca]

One sure way to shut this thread down is to turn in into a vaccine thread, so I'm going to ask that we try to stay away from that.

Do you think WDW will abandon the mask mandate if the CDC does? Or will they stay with it beyond it being public policy/suggestion?

Once CDC drops it so will Disney. And their announcement today is a positive. But I think you’ll still see people in masks voluntarily.

I’m just hoping they are gone by November 2022.

 

[Eric Smith]

One sure way to shut this thread down is to turn in into a vaccine thread, so I'm going to ask that we try to stay away from that.

Do you think WDW will abandon the mask mandate if the CDC does? Or will they stay with it beyond it being public policy/suggestion?

The last thing WDW will remove is the mask requirement. I think it will be done all at once, they won't do a "mask only indoors" rule in the middle. I think it would happen in the fall at the absolute earliest. Realistically, I expect it will happen sometime in Spring of 2022.

 

[EmilyGahr]

I think things are moving in the right direction. Hoping for no masks for our trip in early 2022!

 

[Missingmypooh]

While masks could be tied to vaccines, I totally agree, it’s a moot point. I have my scientific articles that say one thing, someone else has there scientific articles that say something contradictory.

all of these are pieces of a much larger puzzle. There is no *one* thing that will determine masks or not.

I’m actually leaning towards the summer as of this week. People are very much fatigued.

 

[marikujawa]

Only with other vaccinated people, or people who are not at risk for severe Covid. Also, not in large groups.

Not only with other vaccinated people. Also unvaccinated but low risk.

 

[Farro]

Some of the information being presented as fact in this thread is kind of scary...

 

[dreamer17555]

I don’t see how it’s in Disney’s best interest to drop the mask mandate anytime soon (by soon I mean probably before 2022). They can easily increase capacity etc. and keep the mask mandate in place as a symbol that they’re doing some thing to keep guests and cast members safe.

My question with anything is- how does Disney benefit from this? If Disney is getting the attendance numbers they are with a mask mandate in place and why would they drop it prematurely and risk another closure? As I said before I could see them easily increasing capacity but keep the masks. Whether that makes the most sense is irrelevant; it’s about what helps their bottom line and still feels like they’re putting guest safety at the forefront.

 

[mi*vida*loca]

I don’t see how it’s in Disney’s best interest to drop the mask mandate anytime soon (by soon I mean probably before 2022). They can easily increase capacity etc. and keep the mask mandate in place as a symbol that they’re doing some thing to keep guests and cast members safe.

My question with anything is- how does Disney benefit from this? If Disney is getting the attendance numbers they are with a mask mandate in place and why would they drop it prematurely and risk another closure? As I said before I could see them easily increasing capacity but keep the masks. Whether that makes the most sense is irrelevant; it’s about what helps their bottom line and still feels like they’re putting guest safety at the forefront.

Why keep the mandate if the CDC says to drop it? And it seems we’re heading in that direction with their announcement today. Isn’t Disney about following guidelines?

 

[dreamer17555]

Why keep the mandate if the CDC says to drop it? And it seems we’re heading in that direction with their announcement today. Isn’t Disney about following guidelines?

Honestly I don’t know how much CDC guidelines Disney is following if you just look at the crowds at any point besides the socially distanced lines. It seems like it will set off a fight with the union to do it prematurely as well as any issue that stems from masks being dropped that could be tied back to Disney would be a PR nightmare. If Disney is getting the attendance they need or want then what do they have to benefit from dropping masks early?

If guests are showing up anyway and spending money, there is no reason for Disney to prematurely drop the mask mandate until they know there is extremely low risk that any issues that arise from that development will be tied back to the company.

With anything how does this benefit Disney?

 

[Eric Smith]

Why keep the mandate if the CDC says to drop it? And it seems we’re heading in that direction with their announcement today. Isn’t Disney about following guidelines?

I think we're quite a ways away from the point where the CDC no longer recommends wearing masks.