Is it okay to put family first? (Response to royal family stuff)

[TLSnell1981]

To the best of my knowledge he actually did have two heart attacks and heart surgery. He ignored his symptoms for a while because of all the wedding hoopla. He was lucky he lived.


He’s a sad, lonely, unwell man who subsists on cheap fast food and doesn’t leave his home much. Unwittingly his daughter became an international celebrity overnight, and he didn’t know how to handle it. Unscrupulous reporters befriended him and paid him for information, and maybe he was happy to have a little attention. Not everyone knows how to deal with sudden fame like that. Many felt the RF should have offered him some help with it.

Meghan and Harry are worth millions. Why didn't they help him?

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Meghan and Harry are worth millions. Why didn't they help him?

Good question. Meghan, especially. The RF, though, are highly skilled at it and have a lot of people at their disposal to help.

 

[Pink Partridge]

Meghan and Harry are worth millions. Why didn't they help him?

Maybe he is an awful person? Perhaps he was a terrible father. Maybe they don't care about him.

 

[gwynne]

Good question. Meghan, especially. The RF, though, are highly skilled at it and have a lot of people at their disposal to help.

JMO, The RF would only step in with the express request of Meghan or Meghan and Harry together.

 

[Pink Partridge]

If Meghan feels like an outsider, she should. She's newer to the family and I doubt there's been many cumulative hours spent together getting to know each other. She's also American, new to the monarchy situation, and new to the duties she's doing. Feeling like an outsider is not necessarily a negative thing, but just a fact. Some of it is incumbent upon her to amalgamate and get herself involved. If she's tried and failed and this is their solution, so be it. But I do hope she gave it the old college try.

How disgusting. She should feel like an outside because she is new to the family? That is very cruel.

When someone comes into a family by marriage, extra steps should be made to ensure they do not feel like an outsider. I can't even wrap my head around "she should" feel like an outsider.

 

[TLSnell1981]

Maybe he is an awful person? Perhaps he was a terrible father. Maybe they don't care about him.

Daddy Markle paid for school and college..helped her get jobs and co parented with her mom. His crime is similar to hers...blabbing about family issues and cashing in on the Royal family

 

[TLSnell1981]

How disgusting. She should feel like an outside because she is new to the family? That is very cruel.

When someone comes into a family by marriage, extra steps should be made to ensure they do not feel like an outsider. I can't even wrap my head around "she should" feel like an outsider.

Did you read the entire post? It said feeling like an outsider wasn't meant to be negative but a simple fact. It was all very new, different and overwhelming. Although, she wasn't a young naive 19 year old girl like Princess Diana. She was a 36 year old divorcee, living with another man when she met Harry. She should've been a bit more seasoned.

 

[Pea-n-Me]

Maybe he is an awful person? Perhaps he was a terrible father. Maybe they don't care about him.

He seems like a regular guy. He and Meghan once loved each other very much:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.to...p19180426/thomas-markle-meghan-markle-father/

 

[okeydokey]

It’s no loss to the US.

And people wonder why they want to take a step back. This thread alone is pretty disturbing. It’s amazing how ugly and judgemental people are.

 

[jdb in AZ]

 

[Pink Partridge]

Did you read the entire post? It said feeling like an outsider wasn't meant to be negative but a simple fact. It was all very new, different and overwhelming. Although, she wasn't a young naive 19 year old girl like Princess Diana. She was a 36 year old divorcee, living with another man when she met Harry. She should've been a bit more seasoned.

I read the entire post. Even if it's not meant as a negative, it still is awful. It is quite negative.

A bit more seasoned? For what? To be treated like an outsider? Her age and past relationships have nothing to do with how others should treat her.

 

[Pink Partridge]

He seems like a regular guy.

I know a lot of awful parents that seemed like regular people. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. You would have to kill me before I stopped talking to my father. I love him so much. For whatever reason, MM doesn't feel the same way about her dad. I don't know that reason, but it is ok to cut off toxic family members.

 

[luvsJack]

I know a lot of awful parents that seemed like regular people. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors. You would have to kill me before I stopped talking to my father. I love him so much. For whatever reason, MM doesn't feel the same way about her dad. I don't know that reason, but it is ok to cut off toxic family members.

But to be completely fair here, we don’t know which one is toxic. He could have been a great dad but raised a very toxic daughter. OR he could be a walking, talking hot mess of a person and she needed to cut ties. But in all honesty we just don’t know.

I think they are just a lot of good reasons to do what they are doing. But that’s just from my observation of things that have gone one with the RF and the press and the never ending expectations of the RF. But, otoh, when the money is gone, she may be too. She may be upset with the RF for legitimate reasons or for imagined ones. Or out of jealousy. Or she may not be upset with them at all. She could be using Diana’s memory and what she went through as an excuse to get out. OR she may feel that estranged from the family and Harry sees it as a reason to leave before it becomes like it was for his mother or Aunt.

I do not think Harry is stupid or being led by the nose to Canada. Whatever the reasons, apparently they are good enough for the Queen.

I do agree that they have now insulted the UK, Canada and the US (or half of it). But hey, maybe they can find an island that is more to their liking.

 

[ronandannette]

...I do agree that they have now insulted the UK, Canada and the US (or half of it). But hey, maybe they can find an island that is more to their liking.

I don’t see why anyone feels insulted - it’s no great national honour that they would deign to live in one country or another. It’s no privilege to have them and AFAIK they weren’t “officially” invited or courted to come to Canada. They’re almost certainly going to be a burden based on their security needs and the whole brouhaha is getting tiresome.

 

[Boardwalk Jedi]

To the best of my knowledge he actually did have two heart attacks and heart surgery. He ignored his symptoms for a while because of all the wedding hoopla. He was lucky he lived.


He’s a sad, lonely, unwell man who subsists on cheap fast food and doesn’t leave his home much. Unwittingly his daughter became an international celebrity overnight, and he didn’t know how to handle it. Unscrupulous reporters befriended him and paid him for information, and maybe he was happy to have a little attention. Not everyone knows how to deal with sudden fame like that. Many felt the RF should have offered him some help with it.

I think they did. Instead, the man listened to his toxic older daughter. I don’t think he is so unwell that he can’t handle himself. He had a successful career in an industry that’s difficult to succeed in. Her mother was far from wealth but knew to keep quiet

 

[luvsJack]

I don’t see why anyone feels insulted - it’s no great national honour that they would deign to live in one country or another. It’s no privilege to have them and AFAIK they weren’t “officially” invited or courted to come to Canada. They’re almost certainly going to be a burden based on their security needs and the whole brouhaha is getting tiresome.

Well, I don't feel that way, personally. Don't care where they live, but some people really do. and their remark about the US is not going to win them any brownie points with much of the US.

 

[Jennasis]

Well, I don't feel that way, personally. Don't care where they live, but some people really do. and their remark about the US is not going to win them any brownie points with much of the US.

Or it will endear them to much of the US. But it's also a wise choice. Why move to a country whose leadership you disagree with? At worst they only have to wait 4 more years to move here if they really want to.

 

[luvsJack]

Or it will endear them to much of the US. But it's also a wise choice. Why move to a country whose leadership you disagree with? At worst they only have to wait 4 more years to move here if they really want to.

Don't know about "endear" but some do agree with them. But there is 0 guarantee they will agree with the next administration. That's why its ridiculous to name a person rather than saying they will look into moving to the US at a later date. But, hey, much better to get those digs in while they are convenient, right?

 

[AppleDumpling]

So they had their royal summit and the Queen responded kindly and graciously to Harry and Meghan, agreeing to accommodate their decision and work with them to allow them to have the life they want. Harry met with his brother, father and grandmother (apparently it was decided that Meghan did not need to be included in the discussion), and they came away with some kind of plan to go forward.

Now why on earth didn’t they do this weeks or months ago privately? They could have avoided much of the public backlash and negative press if they had simply just talked to their family like normal people.

 

[TipsyTraveler]

But to be completely fair here, we don’t know which one is toxic. He could have been a great dad but raised a very toxic daughter. OR he could be a walking, talking hot mess of a person and she needed to cut ties. But in all honesty we just don’t know.

Great parents don’t raise very toxic children. Toxic people are products of toxic environments, dysfunction that is passed down from one generation to the next.

Extricating oneself from that is not an easy process and it’s not a decision made lightly. People don’t cut off healthy, functional, supportive family members for no good reason just like no one up and leaves a happy, loving marriage or quits a great paying job they adore. Things have to be overwhelmingly negative and beyond repair for someone to get to the point where they feel they have no choice but to completely sever ties.

It’s true that we’re just outsiders looking in, but if Meghan has chosen to distance herself from certain family members, it’s probably safe to say she has good reason for doing so.