Marathon Weekend 2020

[ANIM8R]

Congrats @UNCBear24 !!! That's terrific!

 

[StarGirl11]

Stopped by the GR just to make a comment about how the VQ isn’t the most DAS friendly. Only bringing this up since the guy we’re talking too thought they might be phasing it out after the holidays. So something to keep in mind

 

[mbrittb00]

Stopped by the GR just to make a comment about how the VQ isn’t the most DAS friendly. Only bringing this up since the guy we’re talking too thought they might be phasing it out after the holidays. So something to keep in mind

What is GR, VQ, and DAS? They aren't listed in the common abbreviations posts.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/a-list-of-common-abbreviations.1660743/

 

[StarGirl11]

What is GR, VQ, and DAS? They aren't listed in the common abbreviations posts.

https://www.disboards.com/threads/a-list-of-common-abbreviations.1660743/

Well that’s interesting because I see a lot of people use them:

DAS: Disability Assistance Pass
VQ: Virtual Queue (other name for Boarding Group)
GR: Guest Relations

 

[mbrittb00]

Well that’s interesting because I see a lot of people use them:

DAS: Disability Assistance Pass
VQ: Virtual Queue (other name for Boarding Group)
GR: Guest Relations

Yeah, strange. Maybe I just missed them in the post, but at least two of those (GR & DAS) should have been there.

As for the comment. Any idea what they would be going with if they did away with the VQ? Basically everyone mad dash to the SB line and wait for hours?

 

[mbrittb00]

Well that’s interesting because I see a lot of people use them:

DAS: Disability Assistance Pass
VQ: Virtual Queue (other name for Boarding Group)
GR: Guest Relations

Also, how is the VQ not DAS friendly?

 

[rteetz]

Yeah, strange. Maybe I just missed them in the post, but at least two of those (GR & DAS) should have been there.

As for the comment. Any idea what they would be going with if they did away with the VQ? Basically everyone mad dash to the SB line and wait for hours?

I don't see the VQ going away soon. The ride is still not running near capacity.

 

[mr incredibleS1]

I feel very relieved to have my last long run (20 miles) behind me, which I completed yesterday, before the snow storm that we are getting today. I do not have a set time in mind for finishing, I just want to finish and maybe try going on a ride this year. I am also really looking forward to visiting GE. It could be a while before I visit Disney again, so I want to take it all in while I'm there

 

[StarGirl11]

Yeah, strange. Maybe I just missed them in the post, but at least two of those (GR & DAS) should have been there.

As for the comment. Any idea what they would be going with if they did away with the VQ? Basically everyone mad dash to the SB line and wait for hours?

Basically yes.

I don't see the VQ going away soon. The ride is still not running near capacity.

I’m just telling you what was mentioned to me. Who knows if it will be.


@mbrittb00 Ive made multiple posts about my issue. And I’m on mobile and do not feel like copy pasting just look at my profile and the previous posts to see what I’ve said.

 

[PointerPower]

I have HH on my calendar for 2 pm on Friday. But, I am fine meeting wherever you choose. And since I’m not running the half... I’ll be enjoying a tasty margarita! (Why is there no margarita on the rocks emoji?)

Quick questions regarding the HH meetup:
1) My flight arrives in MCO at 11:45 AM, and I'll be heading to the expo asap. How long does the group typically hang out at HH? I have Epcot in my plans for Friday afternoon/evening, so that location will work out well for me if the meetup lasts for a few hours. I missed the opportunity to meet up for this past January's marathon, so I'm going to try to do whatever I can to meetup this year.

2) How can I identify the group once I get there? (forgive me if this will be super obvious )

Good luck on the training everyone - it's been fun to watch everyone's progress!

 

[CDKG]

Quick questions regarding the HH meetup:
1) My flight arrives in MCO at 11:45 AM, and I'll be heading to the expo asap. How long does the group typically hang out at HH? I have Epcot in my plans for Friday afternoon/evening, so that location will work out well for me if the meetup lasts for a few hours. I missed the opportunity to meet up for this past January's marathon, so I'm going to try to do whatever I can to meetup this year.

2) How can I identify the group once I get there? (forgive me if this will be super obvious )

Good luck on the training everyone - it's been fun to watch everyone's progress!

The two HHHH meetups I’ve attended lasted 2-3 hours. The seating area at HH is very small and we typically take up almost half of it. You’ll know who you’re looking for!

 

[lhermiston]

Quick questions regarding the HH meetup:
1) My flight arrives in MCO at 11:45 AM, and I'll be heading to the expo asap. How long does the group typically hang out at HH? I have Epcot in my plans for Friday afternoon/evening, so that location will work out well for me if the meetup lasts for a few hours. I missed the opportunity to meet up for this past January's marathon, so I'm going to try to do whatever I can to meetup this year.

2) How can I identify the group once I get there? (forgive me if this will be super obvious )

Good luck on the training everyone - it's been fun to watch everyone's progress!

We’re the ridiculously good looking group. You can’t miss us.

 

[mbrittb00]

@mbrittb00 Ive made multiple posts about my issue. And I’m on mobile and do not feel like copy pasting just look at my profile and the previous posts to see what I’ve said.

@StarGirl11. I skimmed through your recent posts (no I'm going to go through all your post in detail) and found no mention of why the Boarding groups are not DAS friendly.

 

[PrincessV]

A Dopey training quandary (not quite a dilemma yet, but looks like it will be soon)...

My final Dopey simulation is scheduled this weekend: 3/6/12/22. Then a 3-week taper. I did my last simulation - 2/5/10/20 - 2 weeks ago, and another before that of 1/4/9/18. I am looking at a very likely possibility of two solid days of rain for the 12 and 22 this weekend. I don't mind running in the rain, but the forecast is calling for some rather large amounts, which, added to the current rain, will mean lots of sidewalks/paths/roadsides under a couple inches of standing water. Running in that is incredibly tiring, let alone doing it for two days in a row for a total of 32 miles.

So my question for you all is this: if I just can't take anymore on Sunday (my planned 22-mile day), what mileage do you think I should aim for if 22 isn't happening? The 3 and 6 will happen, no problem, and I'm sure I can pull through the 12 on Sat. - aim to get through at least 15 on Sun.? 12? 10, even? Until I'm feeling the fatigue equivalent to what 20-22 would be in normal conditions, whenever that may come?? Every year so far, my final really long run has had beautiful weather, so this is kind of throwing me!

 

[mbrittb00]

A Dopey training quandary (not quite a dilemma yet, but looks like it will be soon)...

My final Dopey simulation is scheduled this weekend: 3/6/12/22. Then a 3-week taper. I did my last simulation - 2/5/10/20 - 2 weeks ago, and another before that of 1/4/9/18. I am looking at a very likely possibility of two solid days of rain for the 12 and 22 this weekend. I don't mind running in the rain, but the forecast is calling for some rather large amounts, which, added to the current rain, will mean lots of sidewalks/paths/roadsides under a couple inches of standing water. Running in that is incredibly tiring, let alone doing it for two days in a row for a total of 32 miles.

So my question for you all is this: if I just can't take anymore on Sunday (my planned 22-mile day), what mileage do you think I should aim for if 22 isn't happening? The 3 and 6 will happen, no problem, and I'm sure I can pull through the 12 on Sat. - aim to get through at least 15 on Sun.? 12? 10, even? Until I'm feeling the fatigue equivalent to what 20-22 would be in normal conditions, whenever that may come?? Every year so far, my final really long run has had beautiful weather, so this is kind of throwing me!

Would Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday (after opening presents), Thursday work? We are actually shifting ours to that because my wife's sister's family is going to be in town this weekend.

 

[PrincessV]

@StarGirl11. I skimmed through your recent posts (no I'm going to go through all your post in detail) and found no mention of why the Boarding groups are not DAS friendly.

Sorry @rteetz - I know this isn't the place for it, but if it's okay, I'll give a quick answer to @mbrittb00 . My son needs the DAS because he is on the Autism spectrum and has a REALLY hard time being in lines and crowds full of people. FP works just as well for him, but for things that don't use FP, or for which we can't get a FP because we're local and don't get a 60-day advantage, DAS allows him to wait somewhere calmer, quieter, less crowded that doesn't make him want to jump out of his skin. The problem with ROTR right now is that you can't get a DAS until you get a BG. And you can't get a BG without waiting in a big crowd for the park to open. Since my son can't handle the crowd to get in, we can't even get into a BG to get a DAS later. Luckily, we are local and can just wait and see if things get better for us down the road, but if we were visiting now and this was to be our only trip, no way would my son be able to do ROTR. I don't have any ideas about how WDW could do better for folks like us, but the DAS system is kind of a failure for some people for this one ride.

 

[PrincessV]

Would Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday (after opening presents), Thursday work?

Sadly, no. I've got too much going on, plus we have even MORE rain forecast for next week. It's going to be a total swamp by Wed.

 

[DopeyBadger]

A Dopey training quandary (not quite a dilemma yet, but looks like it will be soon)...

My final Dopey simulation is scheduled this weekend: 3/6/12/22. Then a 3-week taper. I did my last simulation - 2/5/10/20 - 2 weeks ago, and another before that of 1/4/9/18. I am looking at a very likely possibility of two solid days of rain for the 12 and 22 this weekend. I don't mind running in the rain, but the forecast is calling for some rather large amounts, which, added to the current rain, will mean lots of sidewalks/paths/roadsides under a couple inches of standing water. Running in that is incredibly tiring, let alone doing it for two days in a row for a total of 32 miles.

So my question for you all is this: if I just can't take anymore on Sunday (my planned 22-mile day), what mileage do you think I should aim for if 22 isn't happening? The 3 and 6 will happen, no problem, and I'm sure I can pull through the 12 on Sat. - aim to get through at least 15 on Sun.? 12? 10, even? Until I'm feeling the fatigue equivalent to what 20-22 would be in normal conditions, whenever that may come?? Every year so far, my final really long run has had beautiful weather, so this is kind of throwing me!

I don't have that exact situation coded, but I do have something similar. In the below example, I used training load calculations to determine the effect of a 4 hour marathon fitness runner on Hansons Advanced completely missing the last long run of the training plan.

A 4 hour marathon runner misses the last long run (16 miles/160 min) in Hansons Advanced

The difference is small. They lose about 6 days of optimal training and about 3.4% of training load. But training load and pace are not 1:1. So a 3.4% drop in training load is not a 3.4% drop in pace.

I also tried it in my personal training load calculations for the training plan I'm doing:

As scheduled.



Missing the long run on 12/22/19


I would lose 3 days of optimal training. If the race day temp + dew swung from 100 to 110, I'd probably notice the effect of that more than the effect of losing the long run. And it seemingly has little to no effect on whether I'm going to be in "peaking" phase when it comes to the race itself.

Moral of the story - one missed run will not derail all the hard work. Consistency is king. If you've been completing all of the training up to this point as scheduled, then one missed run (even if it is the peak long run) will not have much of an impact on your fitness on race day. The more training you do, the less any one run really means in the grand scheme. A string of missed run, sure you'll notice that. But not a single missed/reduced one. So I say, get in what you can (whether that be 0, 5, 10, 12, 15, or 22).

 

[PrincessV]

Moral of the story - one missed run will not derail all the hard work. Consistency is king. If you've been completing all of the training up to this point as scheduled, then one missed run (even if it is the peak long run) will not have much of an impact on your fitness on race day. The more training you do, the less any one run really means in the grand scheme. A string of missed run, sure you'll notice that. But not a single missed/reduced one. So I say, get in what you can (whether that be 0, 5, 10, 12, 15, or 22).

Thank you DB! This is what I figured, but it always helps to hear it from someone else. I know that worst case scenario, I can eek out at least 7-8 miles on a treadmill, but I'm pretty confident I can do at least double digits outside, so long as all this rain doesn't come with a side of lightning. I'm annoyed with being robbed of a really pleasant final long run... but maybe this will result in a perfect day for the actual marathon?! Hope springs eternal, lol!

 

[Mr. Drauer]

FYI for those following the BG saga for RotR: they changed things today and did not open the BG until 7:00 AM, though they opened the park at about 6:40. No rides were open until 7:00 and everyone had to wait on Hollywoood Blvd until the CM dropped the "rope". To get a BG, everyone had to log in to the app when it went live after 7:00, rendering getting to the park at 5:00 or earlier a moot point since everyone had access to the app and BG after it opened at 7:00. This happened without any advance notice so there was lots of complaining from those who arrived super early and were not given any advantage over those that arrived at 6:50. All BG were distributed prior to 8:00, so you still need to get there by opening to ensure a BG. There is no indication if this will continue in this fashion, so YMMV, but we will see what happens tomorrow.