OFFICIAL Avengers: Endgame Discussion Thread (will contain spoilers once the movie is out)

[BuzzyBelle]

Yeah, knowing what actors were done with the series pretty much set up who was likely to not come out the other side but it was still a journey to see how they did it all.
Showed a lot of growth for Tony to be the one to make the big sacrifice. Not sure Tony from Iron Man 1 would have made that same choice

We knew RDJ and Chris Evans were done so it wasn’t shocking how things turned out. I totally agree about Tony.

My husband and others were frustrated that someone else who would have survived didn’t make the final snap, but I think Tony earned it. He came a far way from billionaire playboy philanthropist to savior of the universe.

It would have been nice if he could have gone back to Pepper and Morgan, but I don’t believe it would have been as satisfying. The story really began with Iron Man and MCU owes so much to RDJ so it had to be him to end it.

If the roles had been reversed and Cap had made the snap and Tony had gone back to his family it wouldn’t have the same impact. Cap always would have made that choice; he’s always been “that guy.”

 

[BrianL]

Tony has always been the guy too do it too - well, not before the event of Iron Man one, but as early as Avengers because that's where he does make a "sacrifice play" and takes what he believes to be a one-way trip with the nuclear missile. It's a plot point in that movie that Cap thinks he wouldn't, but then he does. Tony's a hero through-and-through!

 

[Hoodie]

We knew RDJ and Chris Evans were done so it wasn’t shocking how things turned out. I totally agree about Tony.

My husband and others were frustrated that someone else who would have survived didn’t make the final snap, but I think Tony earned it. He came a far way from billionaire playboy philanthropist to savior of the universe.

It would have been nice if he could have gone back to Pepper and Morgan, but I don’t believe it would have been as satisfying. The story really began with Iron Man and MCU owes so much to RDJ so it had to be him to end it.

If the roles had been reversed and Cap had made the snap and Tony had gone back to his family it wouldn’t have the same impact. Cap always would have made that choice; he’s always been “that guy.”

Exactly. I went in thinking Cap would do it and something else would happen to Tony. Then as the movie progressed and focused on Cap missing Peggy so much, I knew Tony would do it and Cap would use one of the Pym particles to go back to her.

And yeah - SyFY had Iron Man on this weekend. There is no way that Tony would have done it. I think that is one of the things I'll miss from the whole series is seeing Tony grow and change. At least we will get Loki back.

 

[jade1]

We knew RDJ and Chris Evans were done so it wasn’t shocking how things turned out. I totally agree about Tony.

Heard RDJ was paid $75 Million for I War, and likely over $100 for E Game, is that true? Good for him if so.

 

[BrianL]

Heard RDJ was paid $75 Million for I War, and likely over $100 for E Game, is that true? Good for him if so.

I dunno, but I mean, he earned it! They all did. After this weekend, I just imagine that people are dancing around in raining money at Disney & Marvel!

 

[BuzzyBelle]

Heard RDJ was paid $75 Million for I War, and likely over $100 for E Game, is that true? Good for him if so.

I’m not sure of exact salaries, but I think most of the MCU stars have deals where they get paid on what the movie makes. So they get relatively small paychecks up front, but stand to make much more on the back end.

With how successful IW was and EG will be, I wouldn’t be surprised if RDJ makes those numbers. Isn’t he currently the highest paid actor in Hollywood or something?

 

[jade1]

So they get relatively small paychecks up front, but stand to make much more on the back end.

Isn’t he currently the highest paid actor in Hollywood or something?

Also heard $15 Million for 3 days work in Spiderman. Not to small upfront, but yea prob the highest paid currently.

 

[MamaD]

I was happy to see that at least some version of Loki is alive and causing shenanigans.

Also found it hilarious that Thor essentially stole Mjolnir from another version of himself.

And Tony. Oh, Tony. I'm happy he had at least a few years of relative happiness, years for him to let go of all his anger and his guilt, but oh Tony.

 

[DharmaLou]

I didn't read each and every post in this thread, but with Harley making an appearance at Tony's funeral and the iron clanging in the post-credit "noise", anyone else think that Iron Man may reincarnate in the future?

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I thought it felt forced and I cringed a bit but I'm probably in the minority. I liked the one from infinity war better.

Also, I know I shouldn't overthink these things but where the heck did Valkyrie find a Pegasus??

I agree with you and so did Aaron and actually my sister-in-law and her boyfriend.

People clapped at that moment and while I got why it felt thrown just for kicks. To me it would have had much more of an impact if they were just one by one (or in unison) coming up and fighting Thanos but it lost the moment if you will by making it IMO a cheesy, thrown in because, moment when they were grouped together and posed for a moment. I rolled my eyes to be honest.

I don't know if the others I was with would agree on the Infinity Wars fight being better as we didn't discuss that but I just rewatched that scene on YouTube and completely agree with you. That scene felt natural whereas Endgame felt forced.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I think I was more sad about black widow than Ironman.

I got more sad about Iron Man. Though that’s because I love Iron Man. Definitely moments throughout the entire film that one could’ve teared up.

I was greatly sadden and quite shocked by Black Widow but I didn't cry. I did cry when Iron Man. I think that more or less had to do with knowing his whole journey. Black Widow, while an important character, didn't quite have that emotional punch as Iron Man did for me. Maybe that's because we didn't have her origin stories to start with. That said I knew Iron Man was going to die and was actually dreading for quite a long time seeing that. It didn't stop me from getting emotional though

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

• Of course, I also really enjoyed the Ghostbusters reboot with my daughter and nearly the rest of the world hated it so...

I enjoyed Ghostbusters and didn't care one whit about it being an all-female lead cast BUT I didn't associate the movie that way--other people did that. So IMO they don't represent the same opinions. I didn't care for the ensemble moment in Endgame but had zero problems with an all-female lead cast with Ghostbusters.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

I have heard Pikachu could do well internationally so that's where it could hurt it.

I'm not even into Pokeman stuff (watched a tiny bit when I was a kid) and I'm sorta wanting to see this movie. It might have to do with the fact that it's Ryan Reynolds with his humor in it lol but it also looks like it might be quite fun.

 

[AngiTN]

I didn't read each and every post in this thread, but with Harley making an appearance at Tony's funeral and the iron clanging in the post-credit "noise", anyone else think that Iron Man may reincarnate in the future?

That is my personal theory but I've got nothing more than I can think of no other reason for them to put him there to have that theory

 

[saskdw]

I didn't read each and every post in this thread, but with Harley making an appearance at Tony's funeral and the iron clanging in the post-credit "noise", anyone else think that Iron Man may reincarnate in the future?

The Russo's stated that the clanging was simply a sound clip from the first Iron Man of Tony building his armor in the desert. It was just a flashback to where it all began. Started with the armor in the desert and ended with the Endgame.

I do think it's very possible that someone will take up the Iron Man mantle in the future, but that's not what the sound clip was signifying.

 

[Mackenzie Click-Mickelson]

The articles posted have really helped me understand the last scene. It's still a tad off in my mind but I understand it so much more now after reading the latter parts of this thread.

Overall I enjoyed the movie though some parts fell flat or felt off for me. It didn't feel long at all and thankfully I didn't need to go to the bathroom lol.

It is bittersweet because a lot of those characters have grown on me but perhaps the newer ones will as well. Guardians is still one of my fav marvel movies so I'll be happy to see more. Gamora plot point has me wondering how they will reconcile the time issue because Gamora at this point hasn't softened up near as much as the one who died in Infinity Wars had. And I agree with another poster no love triangles please.

Thor with his beer gut and "The Dude" homage was hilarious. I can see however how people might feel it was dragging on but at the same time I got that his mind basically had splintered with all that had happened. If nothing else it humanized a god to the point where people can really relate. I would be lying if I said though that I hope he's back to his..umm.godly physique when we see him next or at the least he works back up to that . I actually appreciated though that they mentioned and showed Jane. I know that because she had the Reality stone she couldn't be ignored but they didn't make the stuff every little bit happen off screen like she basically didn't exist so that was nice.

I had looked up and saw there was no end credit and while I think it was fitting..at the same time I was yearning for one. If for no other reason than I felt I needed better closure after so much investment into the series. The sound I do feel like could have been a tad louder and I say that because I wouldn't have known what it was if I hadn't looked it up later. Speaking of sound I felt like at least a quarter perhaps more of the movie the audio was quite low in our theater. Was it this way for others? Meaning was it just supposed to be that way? I had a hard time hearing what was said for parts of it.

Someday I'll rewatch all the movies close enough together and I think I'll appreciate them a lot more having seen Endgame ('course I'll want to see it again too).

 

[hakepb]

Last weekend, SCFY and USA were showing several MCU movies, and Age of Ultron is a now a lot more entertaining, since we now see who can use Mjolnir and the vision Wanda gives Tony looks like the alternate ending to Endgame if Tony doesn’t snap. (Other Avengers dead, including Cap with the broken shield, while spaceships fly overhead...)

On the lighter side, I saw a Reddit post saying Endgame needed a post credits scene where Thor and Korg are at an open door of a home asking, “are you NoobMaster69?”

 

[Planogirl]

I was greatly sadden and quite shocked by Black Widow but I didn't cry. I did cry when Iron Man. I think that more or less had to do with knowing his whole journey. Black Widow, while an important character, didn't quite have that emotional punch as Iron Man did for me. Maybe that's because we didn't have her origin stories to start with. That said I knew Iron Man was going to die and was actually dreading for quite a long time seeing that. It didn't stop me from getting emotional though

I agree. However I was disappointed that Black Widow didn't have more of a story before the end. I felt like they neglected her.

Now I plan to watch what I think will be the wrap up of the X-Men series. Then I'm superheroed out for a while.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I've been working on magnets for our Alaska cruise in a couple of weeks. What do you think of this one:
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Do you recognize it?

Love it!

 

[Phicinfan]

I agree. However I was disappointed that Black Widow didn't have more of a story before the end. I felt like they neglected her.

Now I plan to watch what I think will be the wrap up of the X-Men series. Then I'm superheroed out for a while.

You don't plan to see Far from home with Spiderman???