D23 EXPO 2019 Superthread - dates announced!

[njchris]

Yes. I understand that ID’s are being checked, but it appears the ID’s are being used to cross check the names on the reservation, not to exclude guests due to a prior visit. All guests over 18 must show ID, and “only guests listed on the SWGE reservation with proper ID will be admitted.”

Again I find no statement from Disneyland that says guests are restricted to visiting SWGE only one time during the reservation period. I would imagine that any such restriction would be very clear. Did I miss something?

I think we have been taking that one reservation per account to mean more than it does. Giving it more thought and looking at that wording it sounds just like one per account. If they truly only wanted you to go once they would have linked something else to the name (like an email at least) otherwise why would they wait until you're at the gate to deny it?

 

[dina444444]

That would be nice! Do we know the capacity of Smugglers Run per hour?

Estimations are about 1,800/hour. Also it’s 4 turntables so similar to FoP if one turntable goes down its doesn’t knock the whole ride offline.

 

[ardanxela]

I thought it would take a little longer considering how many days there were to choose from. Obviously this depends how many are in each slot. I would be curious to hear those numbers.

Me too. I was about ready to give up after an hour as I thought for certain there wouldn't be any left. I ended up opening another browser and got through quickly on that one.

 

[Rich M]

Me too. I was about ready to give up after an hour as I thought for certain there wouldn't be any left. I ended up opening another browser and got through quickly on that one.

Same thing happened to me.

 

[DizneyMommy]

I also wonder how well they will be able to implement a system like that, but it doesn't seem impossible. If they can do it with FPs, they should be able to do it with this (assuming they want the line to enter SWGE to back up worse than FP return lines because they are doing both ticket scans and ID checks).

Since we have multiple reservations from different sources, I'll hold out to see what implementation looks like before buying tickets. If this is truly how they are keeping people out, the easy work around is to buy multiple single day tickets rather than one multi-day ticket -- still cheaper than VIP tours!

It won’t be hard at all. They already have a system. They use it to scan AP’s when they have AP days activities and are giving something away. They scan our AP to make sure we only get a freebie once.

 

[ERQTraveler]

Yes, I agree with you. LOL

I think we have been taking that one reservation per account to mean more than it does. Giving it more thought and looking at that wording it sounds just like one per account. If they truly only wanted you to go once they would have linked something else to the name (like an email at least) otherwise why would they wait until you're at the gate to deny it?

Cool.

I simply wanted to make sure I wasn’t going crazy because I couldn’t find any statement from Disneyland limiting each visitor to one visit during 5/31-6/23.

One reservation per account? Yes.
One time slot per hotel guest per stay? Yes.
One SWGE visit during reservation period? No.

ERQ

 

[ERQTraveler]

It won’t be hard at all. They already have a system. They use it to scan AP’s when they have AP days activities and are giving something away. They scan our AP to make sure we only get a freebie once.

Although Disneyland has the capability to restrict access to one visit per guest during the reservation period and keep track of it, where do they explicitly say that? Is it speculation that guests are allowed to visit only one time?

ERQ

 

[Rich M]

I am happy enough to get my one reservation to check it out. I understand that people want to go multiple times but in order to allow more people they really should have only allowed one per person but I personally don't see anything in any fine print that says it. I also think for the price that people pay for the rooms there that the hotel guest should have an exclusive window at even more reduced crowds.

 

[RedM94]

I thought it was hypocritical that I was called a cheat, prior to the reservation window opening today, because DLRH has issued two reservations to me for actual hotel bookings. Then the window opens, and it all of a sudden it is ok for said person to make a second reservation because they failed to read the instructions and only booked for themselves.

 

[DisneyPiPhi]

I don't think they're restricting to one entry per person. People with onsite split stays have gotten two SWGE reservations automatically assigned.

 

[alvernon90]

It won’t be hard at all. They already have a system. They use it to scan AP’s when they have AP days activities and are giving something away. They scan our AP to make sure we only get a freebie once.

We already know that Disney will be checking IDs for all adults and scanning QR codes for the reservations, all while trying to funnel thousands of people into the land during the shortest possible time. So it is conceivable that they would add a third process of scanning tickets -- even though that is no guarantee because people can get around it by buying multiple shorter tickets -- but my guess is that they will not bother.

Keep in mind also that once people have the reservations, there is no percentage for Disney in turning people away. They won't be opening up space for people in the standby line, because there is no standby line. There is no way to get reservations now aside from booking hotels, which would only involve future reservation dates. All Disney would accomplish is reducing the number of people who might spend money in SWGE on that particular day. Are they really going to do that? If they were, it seems to me they would be public and clear about it ("No guest may enter SWGE more than one time during the reservation period") instead of keeping it a secret that they spring on people at the gate.

But I guess we will find out soon enough, won't we?

 

[longtimedisneylurker]

We already know that Disney will be checking IDs for all adults and scanning QR codes for the reservations, all while trying to funnel thousands of people into the land during the shortest possible time. So it is conceivable that they would add a third process of scanning tickets -- even though that is no guarantee because people can get around it by buying multiple shorter tickets -- but my guess is that they will not bother.

Keep in mind also that once people have the reservations, there is no percentage for Disney in turning people away. They won't be opening up space for people in the standby line, because there is no standby line. There is no way to get reservations now aside from booking hotels, which would only involve future reservation dates. All Disney would accomplish is reducing the number of people who might spend money in SWGE on that particular day. Are they really going to do that? If they were, it seems to me they would be public and clear about it ("No guest may enter SWGE more than one time during the reservation period") instead of keeping it a secret that they spring on people at the gate.

But I guess we will find out soon enough, won't we?

I agree that by the wording presented it doesn't seem like you are not allowed to visit more than once during the first 24 days and to impose such a restriction at this time would seem something of a bait and switch. I simply pointed out in my earlier post that Disney did have the power to track and limit visits based on theme park ticket/AP if they had wanted to do so.

 

[Skyegirl1999]

Two different phone CMs (one for the hotel and one for the SW line) confirmed that they will not be tracking and trying to block repeat visitors. They specifically said that if an individual is listed on multiple reservations on different days, that is not a problem. Given the certainty with which both spoke, the specifics they mentioned, and the examples they gave, I feel pretty confident in that information even though we know phone CMs can give out faulty info... they were both using the same examples and terms, too.

As expected (but I wanted to double check), they also confirmed that there's no way to cancel a non-hotel reservation in a way that makes it available to anyone else. So there's no point to cancelling one if you have multiples at this point; you can't help anyone out that way the way you can with a dining reservation.

We plan to cancel our hotel stay and just keep the reservation we obtained this morning, but I wanted to know all of our options, and I thought this information might be helpful to others. I'm not weighing in on the ethics of having multiple reservations or anything like that.

 

[gypsy_at_heart]

Yes. I understand that ID’s are being checked, but it appears the ID’s are being used to cross check the names on the reservation, not to exclude guests due to a prior visit. All guests over 18 must show ID, and “only guests listed on the SWGE reservation with proper ID will be admitted.”

Again I find no statement from Disneyland that says guests are restricted to visiting SWGE only one time during the reservation period. I would imagine that any such restriction would be very clear. Did I miss something?

ERQ

I suppose, if you want to, you can read between the lines and try to interpret anything in a way that you want. But, I'm sorry, it seems pretty clear to me the intent is that it should be one reservation per guest. It also seems fairly clear to me that the intent is that if you have a hotel reservation, you are expected to only use the reservation they've assigned you for the hotel. If they wanted you to make multiple accounts and have multiple trips, I feel like they wouldn't keep stating one reservation per guest. Just because it doesn't specifically tell you 'no, you can't make another account to try and get a second reservation' doesn't mean you should. If a sign says 'no walking on the grass' it doesn't mean it's fine to rollerblade across it...

Sure, you were able to make the reservation now. Maybe they'll stop you when you get to the gate. Maybe they'll miss you. Who knows at this point. Can you honestly think that it's the intent though to allow that? It does seem fairly obvious that some people don't seem to care about that, or if it's fair, or if it restricts other people from seeing the land - sadly, sometimes people are just like that.

Guests staying at a Disneyland Resort hotel between May 31 and June 23, 2019 do not need to sign up for a reservation as they will receive a designated reservation to access Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge during their stay (one reservation per registered guest; valid theme park admission required). If you would like to stay at a Disneyland Resort hotel and guarantee a reservation to Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge, click here to book your stay or call (714) 520-5060 now! If the hotel reservation is cancelled, the Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge reservation will be cancelled.

Q.

How do I make a reservation to visit Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland Resort?
A.

To visit Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge at Disneyland Park between May 31, 2019 and June 23, 2019, Guests need valid theme park admission and will be required to make a reservation to access the land. There is no additional cost to make a reservation, but reservations are subject to availability. Guests staying at one of the 3 Disneyland Resort hotels during these dates will receive a designated reservation to access Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge during their stay (one reservation per registered Guest); valid theme park admission is required. If the hotel reservation is cancelled, the Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge reservation will be cancelled.

If you are not staying at a Disneyland Resort hotel between May 31 and June 23, 2019, you can make a reservation to visit Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge starting at 10:00 AM Pacific Time on May 2, 2019; subject to availability. If you have not already done so, please create a Disney account before this time.

The primary Guest making the reservation for the group must provide a valid government-issued photo ID at check-in and must be 14 years of age or older, or else the entire party will be unable to access the land.

Important Information About Adding Additional Guests

• You may add up to 5 additional Guests.
• Each Guest 3 years of age or older will need a reservation.
• Each Guest is limited to one reservation.
• You will not be able to modify Guest names or the reservation date and time.
• You will not be able to add new Guests.
• Each adult Guest (age 18 or over) must provide a valid government-issued photo ID to access the land.

During the reservation period, access to the experiences in Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge is subject to capacity. Once you make your reservation, no changes or modifications will be allowed. Reservations are void if transferred or sold and have no cash value. Unused reservations will be forfeited and not replaced. Please continue to check the Disney Parks Blog for the latest information

 

[ImDMous]

I loved the idea of the Gold Lounge they have had (although I think it was Charter member in years past) but I never actually used it because it was very literally Members Only. I couldn't take my husband in because he's not a member, even though all D23 events are members +1 guest. I thought they were a bit harsh on that. I didn't see anyone in the lounge the couple times I went past. Maybe others were in my situation as well, I wasn't going to sit in there and enjoy some snacks and drinks by myself while my husband has to fend for himself.

 

[RedM94]

We already know that Disney will be checking IDs for all adults and scanning QR codes for the reservations, all while trying to funnel thousands of people into the land during the shortest possible time. So it is conceivable that they would add a third process of scanning tickets -- even though that is no guarantee because people can get around it by buying multiple shorter tickets -- but my guess is that they will not bother.

Keep in mind also that once people have the reservations, there is no percentage for Disney in turning people away. They won't be opening up space for people in the standby line, because there is no standby line. There is no way to get reservations now aside from booking hotels, which would only involve future reservation dates. All Disney would accomplish is reducing the number of people who might spend money in SWGE on that particular day. Are they really going to do that? If they were, it seems to me they would be public and clear about it ("No guest may enter SWGE more than one time during the reservation period") instead of keeping it a secret that they spring on people at the gate.

But I guess we will find out soon enough, won't we?

This is what it states for individuals with a DLRH reservation:

We already know that Disney will be checking IDs for all adults and scanning QR codes for the reservations, all while trying to funnel thousands of people into the land during the shortest possible time. So it is conceivable that they would add a third process of scanning tickets -- even though that is no guarantee because people can get around it by buying multiple shorter tickets -- but my guess is that they will not bother.

Keep in mind also that once people have the reservations, there is no percentage for Disney in turning people away. They won't be opening up space for people in the standby line, because there is no standby line. There is no way to get reservations now aside from booking hotels, which would only involve future reservation dates. All Disney would accomplish is reducing the number of people who might spend money in SWGE on that particular day. Are they really going to do that? If they were, it seems to me they would be public and clear about it ("No guest may enter SWGE more than one time during the reservation period") instead of keeping it a secret that they spring on people at the gate.

But I guess we will find out soon enough, won't we?

If there intent were clear, they would not have voluntarily issued to me, two SWGE reservations, one for each room I booked. I did not ask for both, they sent me email confirmations for both.

In the spirit of this debate, if you will, many things are open to interpretation. What bother's me is the self righteous, not you, calling me a cheat this morning, and then booking a second reservation because they failed to read the instructions and messed up their first booking. Funny how that works.

 

[alvernon90]

I suppose, if you want to, you can read between the lines and try to interpret anything in a way that you want. But, I'm sorry, it seems pretty clear to me the intent is that it should be one reservation per guest.

I mean, you can keep saying that and the quoted portions do speak for themselves. But in terms of judging intent, I would look at Disney's actual actions.

As has been repeated many times in this thread, people with multiple hotel bookings (or split stays) have automatically received multiple SWGE reservations. Disney handed out multiple reservations even though they have all the data they need to prevent it. If they cared so much, would they do that? Would they shift the burden to the guest to "return" a reservation that Disney has already given them? That doesn't make much sense to me.

But in any event, it's over now. All we can do is wait and see if those of us with multiple reservations get to ride the Falcon multiple times.

 

[OhioStateBuckeye]

I think yes on Marvel - I think we are likely to get the 2020 and maybe even 2021 slate of Marvel movies. Probably even a "Black Widow" trailer. (Which I think is shooting this summer.)

Star Wars not so sure. Clearly they will use this to push Episode 9 and possibly even the stuff on Disney + (Not sure how they are going to handle the Disney + stuff versus the panels.) But based on Iger's latest mention, I think they are still unsure how to proceed with Star Wars. Possible that you could get an announcement of the GOT show-runners movie as in what time period it's planned for, but I just don't see any SW movie that will be shooting in 2019 and I think the next SW movie is at earliest shooting in 2020 and release December 2021. So I really think any announcement won't involve cast and directors or even release date - just maybe something like "We're going forward with this story set in the old republic."

This brings up a topic. Traditionally they've always had a "Legends" panel and "Animation movie" panel on Friday, then "Live Action movie" panel and "Parks and Resorts" panel on Saturday. Television has never had a really big panel on it's own. However, Disney has a HUGE product coming a few months after D23 - Disney +, which has a TON of big-name shows (Marvel, Disney, Lucasfilm and more). Are we going to get a fifth panel on Sunday for Disney +? Or does Disney+ bump one of the other panels to Sunday?

Yeah that is actually a good point. I wonder if they'll have a Disney+ panel.

They could bring in people from the Mandalorian, Wanda and Vision, Bucky and Falcon, tons of stuff. I think they'd want to promote that. And then a free month for everyone in the audience

Even announce new stuff for the platform.

 

[RedM94]

I mean, you can keep saying that and the quoted portions do speak for themselves. But in terms of judging intent, I would look at Disney's actual actions.

As has been repeated many times in this thread, people with multiple hotel bookings (or split stays) have automatically received multiple SWGE reservations. Disney handed out multiple reservations even though they have all the data they need to prevent it. If they cared so much, would they do that? Would they shift the burden to the guest to "return" a reservation that Disney has already given them? That doesn't make much sense to me.

But in any event, it's over now. All we can do is wait and see if those of us with multiple reservations get to ride the Falcon multiple times.

Thank you! This morning someone suggested that the mods censor and disallow my comments because I was trying to take advantage of the system.

I didn’t ask for two reservations, they gave them to me.

 

[ERQTraveler]

@gypsy_at_heart you’re proving my point.

Each guest can make one reservation and add up to 5 guests. This does not limit the number of visits. It merely limits how many reservations each guest can make. For example, while I can make a reservation for myself, my cousin can make her own reservation and add me as her guest. Two different reservations yielding two visits.

Disneyland does not deal with “intent.” If the intent was to limit visits to one, then Disneyland would be explicit about it. You would not have to read between the lines. To me, Disneyland has always been and is currently very clear about the terms of the reservation process and access to SWGE.

ERQ