Disney Skyliner (Gondola Transportation System) Read Post 1 Now Open!

[vacationer1954]

The only reason I have pause is because the L here in Chicago gets stuck so frequently, hard to separate it in mind.

I would focus on the differences between the Chicago L and Disney, such as the difference between "127 years old viaducts that sometimes need emergency shoring" and "modern technology going through about six months of testing before opening to the public", and the difference between "financially strapped state and local governments" and "94% liquidity; 45% gross margin; 21% profit".

 

[Farro]

I would focus on the difference between "127 years old viaducts that sometimes need emergency shoring" and "modern technology going through about six months of testing before opening to the public", and the difference between "financially strapped state and local governments" and "94% liquidity; 45% gross margin; 21% profit".

It's not a rational fear, but most fears aren't.

 

[OSUZorba]

I've never been in a Gondola!
We are staying at Boardwalk, but gonna jump on one at International Gateway just to try it out. Get out at whatever the first stop is if I start to freak out.

The only reason I have pause is because the L here in Chicago gets stuck so frequently, hard to separate it in mind. I always panic I'll have to use the washroom (don't know why), so I always stop at a restroom before I get on any transportation I can't control.

I thought the entire car on L-trains was a public washroom?

 

[Farro]

I thought the entire car on L-trains was a public washroom?

Stop. It's true. Or at least smells true.

Always check you seat before you sit!

 

[joelkfla]

• Odds of being involved in an accident on a single ski lift ride: 1 in 879 million
• Odds of being injured on a ski lift ride: 1 in 76 million
• Odds of death on a ski lift ride: 1 in 1.28 billion

These numbers are based on statistics from 1972 thru 2016, and include all ski lifts in the U.S., both chairlifts and gondolas, and both fixed and detachable grips. The report doesn't differentiate, but it seems to me that most injuries reported in the news have been on fixed grip chairlifts, more so than detachable gondolas as Skyliner will be.

The report does make this conclusion:

The comparison between ski lifts, elevators, and
automobiles for the number of deaths per 100 million miles transported shows that
a person is five times more likely to die in an elevator than a ski lift and eight times
more likely to die in an automobile than a ski lift. However, a passenger is more
likely to be injured on a ski lift than to die in an automobile per 100 million miles
transported,
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So those who are fearful of riding Skyliner should also avoid riding elevators.

Source: Design of a Ski Lift Inspection & Maintenance System, May 9, 2018, p. 31

 

[SgtTibbs]

Really anyone spouting fear can be discounted. A small percentage of people always fear change. After the skyliner has been open a few years it will be familiar and "normal" then everyone won't think twice about it until sometime in the distant future when it's replaced with something new then the cycle will repeat.

 

[Iowamomof4]

I find it a bit amusing when people seem to think those who are afraid of heights (in a way that will make riding the gondolas a no-go) will be suddenly fear-free if they just understand how safe they are. Phobias are by their very nature IRRATIONAL! Meaning, most people who have the phobia know in their rational brain that their fears are overblown and not based on reality, but they still can't make themselves face the thing they're afraid of - or if they do force themselves to do it they'll be so emotionally exhausted from the effort the rest of their day might be done for.

Yes, there will definitely be people who simply cannot ride these. Let it go. Hopefully they'll be aware enough that they choose a different resort to stay at.

 

[OSUZorba]

I find it a bit amusing when people seem to think those who are afraid of heights (in a way that will make riding the gondolas a no-go) will be suddenly fear-free if they just understand how safe they are. Phobias are by their very nature IRRATIONAL! Meaning, most people who have the phobia know in their rational brain that their fears are overblown and not based on reality, but they still can't make themselves face the thing they're afraid of - or if they do force themselves to do it they'll be so emotionally exhausted from the effort the rest of their day might be done for.

Yes, there will definitely be people who simply cannot ride these. Let it go. Hopefully they'll be aware enough that they choose a different resort to stay at.

There will definitely be acrophobs that won't ever ride it, or will be in fear the whole time. But I think many acrophobs will be fine once they try it. The closed cabins will help many of them. The fact that you won't be able to look straight down will help others. And the constant movement will help others.

 

[Patches Lee]

There will definitely be acrophobs that won't ever ride it, or will be in fear the whole time. But I think many acrophobs will be fine once they try it. The closed cabins will help many of them. The fact that you won't be able to look straight down will help others. And the constant movement will help others.

Throw seat belts in and I'm good lol. My "irrational" part is: rollercoasters are great, I feel something holding me in. Tall building swaying, or looking straight down (for some reason ferris wheels also): dizzy. Flying doesn't effect me I guess cause there isn't enough to give a perspective of how high up we are.

 

[rteetz]

First test runs

https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...bbean-beach-resort-disneys-hollywood-studios/

 

[skier_pete]

I find it a bit amusing when people seem to think those who are afraid of heights (in a way that will make riding the gondolas a no-go) will be suddenly fear-free if they just understand how safe they are. Phobias are by their very nature IRRATIONAL! Meaning, most people who have the phobia know in their rational brain that their fears are overblown and not based on reality, but they still can't make themselves face the thing they're afraid of - or if they do force themselves to do it they'll be so emotionally exhausted from the effort the rest of their day might be done for.

Yes, there will definitely be people who simply cannot ride these. Let it go. Hopefully they'll be aware enough that they choose a different resort to stay at.

I completely agree. but here's what I don't get..

The thing is, as long as you don't stay at one of these 4 resorts, you NEVER HAVE TO RIDE THEM. (And honestly even staying at these resorts you can find ways not to ride them if they don't do bus transport - use Uber for instance.) I have a phobia myself, of being above / on water. Even docks can trigger it. Soarin is the only ride at WDW that bothers me because of this. I can mostly control it, but I understand a phobia, and not everyone is willing to fight to overcome them, but again it's easy enough not to even have to.

To those statistics above, I always point out to my family that the most dangerous thing we do on a Disney trip is the drive to the airport.

 

[Tigger's ally]

To those statistics above, I always point out to my family that the most dangerous thing we do on a Disney trip is the drive to the airport.

Ours is walking down Main Street USA with bazillion of crazed scooter and stroller pushers in the rear view mirror! Well that and eating a turkey leg.

 

[OSUZorba]

Ours is walking down Main Street USA with bazillion of crazed scooter and stroller pushers in the rear view mirror! Well that and eating a turkey leg.

You aren't supposed to eat the bone

 

[Captain Kittens]

I would be more surprised if they didn’t based on number of videos I am seeing of people staked out at stations now filming construction and the occasional gondola testing

Especially if it does come to fruition that bus service is resduved people will want to compare if this is a net positive or negative in total people transported per hour

People trying to compare this to the buses are weird. The gondolas are NOT meant to replace the buses or driving yourself to the parks. They are not meant to hold as many people and go as fast. They are cute little rooms that can hold a handful of people that will leisurely take you to a park. Its really not that deep guys. Trying to figure out the net transportation speed per hour times the number of people on it divided by the number of buses plus the number of gondolas divided by blah blah just to figure out if you will get to the parks 2 minutes faster is as silly as can be.

Also the reason for no AC.....WEIGHT.

Relax and slow down people.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

People trying to compare this to the buses are weird. The gondolas are NOT meant to replace the buses or driving yourself to the parks. They are not meant to hold as many people and go as fast. They are cute little rooms that can hold a handful of people that will leisurely take you to a park. Its really not that deep guys. Trying to figure out the net transportation speed per hour times the number of people on it divided by the number of buses plus the number of gondolas divided by blah blah just to figure out if you will get to the parks 2 minutes faster is as silly as can be.

Also the reason for no AC.....WEIGHT.

Relax and slow down people.

except that they are meant to replace buses - and will be for those resorts to those parks (either completely or at least partially) They aren't about (or at least not just about) a leisurely trip - they are being build to more efficiently transport people, specifically to DHS for Galaxy's Edge ... so yeah, knowing how they compare to current transportation options is relevant

 

[SgtTibbs]

People trying to compare this to the buses are weird. The gondolas are NOT meant to replace the buses or driving yourself to the parks. They are not meant to hold as many people and go as fast. They are cute little rooms that can hold a handful of people that will leisurely take you to a park. Its really not that deep guys. Trying to figure out the net transportation speed per hour times the number of people on it divided by the number of buses plus the number of gondolas divided by blah blah just to figure out if you will get to the parks 2 minutes faster is as silly as can be.

Also the reason for no AC.....WEIGHT.

Relax and slow down people.

Those "cute little rooms" can take the equivalent of a bus full of guest every 30 seconds. That's equal to a lot of buses.

 

[Captain Kittens]

except that they are meant to replace buses - and will be for those resorts to those parks (either completely or at least partially) They aren't about (or at least not just about) a leisurely trip - they are being build to more efficiently transport people, specifically to DHS for Galaxy's Edge ... so yeah, knowing how they compare to current transportation options is relevant

Source that they are meant to replace buses? You dont even know if they are replacing buses yourself, hence you "either completely or partially" follow-up. I have not seen anything, anywhere, that says these will replace bus transportation for the hotels they go to. That would be a ridiculously DUMB idea considering attendance is only getting higher. But hey, I could be wrong. I would love to see something official on that.

 

[joelkfla]

Those "cute little rooms" can take the equivalent of a bus full of guest every 30 seconds. That's equal to a lot of buses.

Well, that may be a bit exaggerated. With 8 per cabin, that would be a dispatch every 4 seconds. I think a busload every 1-2 minutes is more realistic.

 

[Moliphino]

Source that they are meant to replace buses? You dont even know if they are replacing buses yourself, hence you "either completely or partially" follow-up. I have not seen anything, anywhere, that says these will replace bus transportation for the hotels they go to. That would be a ridiculously DUMB idea considering attendance is only getting higher. But hey, I could be wrong. I would love to see something official on that.

Why build them otherwise?

 

[joelkfla]

Source that they are meant to replace buses? You dont even know if they are replacing buses yourself, hence you "either completely or partially" follow-up. I have not seen anything, anywhere, that says these will replace bus transportation for the hotels they go to. That would be a ridiculously DUMB idea considering attendance is only getting higher. But hey, I could be wrong. I would love to see something official on that.

How would you justify continuing to run buses when they have another mode of transit with higher capacity available and equal or better average transit time? Maybe a couple of buses an hour to satisfy doubters, but no more than that.