Life After Marathons: A Running/barre3/Coffee/Life Journal

I really wish I was good at giving advice and pep talks and having great wisdom to share. I'm good at hugs, making a cup of coffee and handing people tissues. So here is your virtual hug :grouphug: and if you need a tissue I'll try and smoosh one through the computer screen to you. I'll owe you a cup of coffee if you decide to run in January.
 
I've always seen myself as a casual runner. Which is perfectly fine. I've also always thought that marathon runners are not casual runners. Which is fine, because I never planned to run a marathon anyway.
But then suddenly I turned around and I was planning to run two marathons. Which is something casual runners dont do in my mind. So I'm having a huge conflict between the races I want to do and how I see myself as a runner.
The way I see it, I have three options for how to resolve the conflict:
1 - Figure out why I want to run the marathons. If I have a good reason, then it's easier to ignore the conflict in my head
2 - Accept that casual runners can run marathons. They just do it super casually :)
3 - Accept that I might actually be a serious runner. How I'm going to manage to do this without running any more than I did when I was a casual runner is going to be interesting l, but it's an option.
I have been right there in this spot. I still kind of only see myself as a casual runner and I have done two marathons with the Dopey Challenge.
 
Hey guys...

So, I'm feeling a little better today. Still not great, but better.

I've always seen myself as a casual runner. Which is perfectly fine. I've also always thought that marathon runners are not casual runners. Which is fine, because I never planned to run a marathon anyway.
But then suddenly I turned around and I was planning to run two marathons. Which is something casual runners dont do in my mind. So I'm having a huge conflict between the races I want to do and how I see myself as a runner.
The way I see it, I have three options for how to resolve the conflict:
1 - Figure out why I want to run the marathons. If I have a good reason, then it's easier to ignore the conflict in my head
2 - Accept that casual runners can run marathons. They just do it super casually :)
3 - Accept that I might actually be a serious runner. How I'm going to manage to do this without running any more than I did when I was a casual runner is going to be interesting l, but it's an option.

Writing my marathon update, which came at the same time as some life stuff (the work computer is staying at work tonight...I cannot deal with working at night three nights in a row), kinda just brought this all to the forefront.

In more important news ... people who cold brew (I know I'm not the only one here) - do you use store bought grounds or grind your own beans? What beans do you use? I've been using the Acme supermarket hmbrand house blend, and it's kinda tasteless. I just put up another batch because those are the grounds I have in the house, but ... this is not working for me.
Glad to see you are feeling somewhat better this morning.

I thought I would share a little of my running journey. I hope that’s okay.

I’m single, and I don’t have kids (but I do have a dog).

New job, New city. I needed to find something to be active. I loved to hike, but really nowhere to do that where I live now. I would do a couple classes at the gym, but never really committed and stuck with anything. I would do workout videos at home sometimes. But nothing really stuck.

I had a friend who had just ran a half marathon, so I thought I might try that. I used to hate running. I would try and run and stop because I hated it. When I learned that I needed to slow my pace down is when I started to be okay with it.

I signed up for a local store’s half marathon training program, and I mostly followed the plan. This was for a fall 2014 half. I made it through a couple halves that fall, and thought that I could continue doing this.

Before or even right after running these first two half marathons, I thought running a marathon would be impossible. No way would I want to or could I do that. But my local race series had a spring to fall back to back challenge, with special pricing right up until new year’s, and on a whim, I signed up for the half to full challenge!! What was I thinking! (Oh, and I signed up for the Dopey Challenge before running that first marathon!?!?)

I was able to sign up for the Disney Half in 2015, when they did the Goofy gives back. I slacked on my training that fall, and it ended up being a pretty painful half marathon, but I loved it! How can you not love running your first Disney Run?? Lesson learned for me, though - don’t slack on training.

After running my first marathon (fall 2015), I never looked back. It’s the distance I like, I think because it provides a challenge. Something that I have to work for, and feel pretty accomplished afterwards.

I would have definitely considered myself a casual runner. I was never going to win anything. I followed a training plan, but didn’t really put in extra effort. I ran with my training group, and just enjoyed running with them. It wasn’t until really this past Dopey Challenge, when I asked Billy to write a plan for me that I really started wanting to improve my time. For the most part I ran races just enjoying them - running a good pace, but nothing overly challenging. Training was a social activity.

This past training session has been a little harder since I’ve only been running one run a week with my training group. I can definitely understand just wanting to go home and do nothing. That sounds really good sometimes (a lot of times??). But I know what I want my end goal to be, which is why I keep running. The feeling at the end of a marathon for me is great.

If you want to run a marathon, you will find a way to make a training plan work for you. If you never want to run a marathon, that’s okay to. Just be happy with what you want to do. Only you can decide what works for you. And if you only want to dedicate a certain amount of time to running, great! If you decide you want to dedicate a little more time each week, great! You do you, and don’t let anyone else’s training, negatively affect you.

I really enjoy reading your training journal - so I hope you keep it up. :)

That was really long - SORRY!!
 
You run, you are a runner! I get it on reading so much of other people's running 'diaries' & how it can get you down about what you are doing. (Sort of there myself but not with training but basically life, I need to step away from some social media groups myself where people run all these races and travel all the time for them) If you have the mind & will you can become a marathon runner of whateve type you want to be. I have been running since I was 13/14 and I've been competitive, casual, didn't race at all.....always running at least for excerise,... then now I'm back to I've got time goals. Anyway, casual or competivite or whatever, you are a runner :)

I think where I'm at right now is figuring out if I have the will to become a marathoner, and what that says about me as a runner. Yes, I can call myself a runner because I run. But when I tell other people that I'm a runner, sometimes they (both runners and non-runners) make assumptions that aren't true (including about pace). So I find that saying casual runner lessens some of those assumptions. Which then raises the question of if a casual runner can run a marathon. It's a fun circle.

Who is defining both "enough" and "good" for you? You, right? But you're defining it based on what you're seeing from others. Not what you're seeing in terms of your own personal improvement and growth. Are you a better runner than you were a year ago?

Last April I ran almost 60 miles. Heck, in March I ran close to my highest ever monthly total. So right now ... I don't feel like I'm a better runner than I was a year ago. Which makes it worse - not only am I nowhere near these other people, I'm not even running at the level I should be based on past performance.
Yeah.

Also, question: what would be the worst that would happen if you DID dedicate more time to it? The way I'm reading your post, you sound like you're beating yourself up because PART of you wants to do more, and PART of you is drawing a line. What happens if you test the waters on the other side of the line? Maybe you hate it and realize that you are currently giving all of yourself that you are willing to give to running. And that's totally OK. That doesn't make you less of a runner, that makes you someone who is practical with your time and emotional/physical needs as they are today. Or, maybe you're ok with it, and you feel like it's ok for that line to move a little.

I think you kind of hit the nail on the head right there. I've been toying with the idea of dedicating more time to running (I even upped my maximum mid-week run length from 45 minutes to the occasional hour for my current plan), but I'm not convinced that I'm ready to take that next step. For one thing ... family-related stuff that I'm not comfortable discussing. And then there's work ... theoretically, I could probably leave the house at 8:45 and be "on time" (which isn't really a thing since I don't have set hours) for work. But I like to get in before 9:30, which means leaving the house in the 7:50-8:15 range. Which means less running time in the morning. And it'll only get worse as I go into marathon training and the sun starts coming up later and later (which means limited time outdoors or treadmill).

I'm sorry to see that you were in a funk though. I totally get it. I've been angst-y towards running this week myself. Also glad to see that you're feeling a little better today, and I LOVE this list (your point three gets to my point above, but I didn't see it until just now :))

Thanks. It's been rough, but I'm trying to find the right mindset to get back in the game.

RE: cold brew: we have a local coffee shop that we like. we switched to grinding our own beans for regular morning coffee years ago and won't look back. BUT, we do have the coffee shop grind the beans we use for cold brew (which are a different "flavor" that the beans we get for morning coffee). Different grind setting, and it doesn't matter to us as much how "freshly" ground the cold brew beans are. That said, we only buy what we'll use in a week or two.

Yeah, I should probably buy stuff in a coffee shop, not the stuff that's been sitting on store shelves for a while. I don't really have a local coffee shop that I like, though ... around here most things are chains (and that's really where I'm most comfortable going anyway, for a few reasons), so I generally just end up at Starbucks.

I really wish I was good at giving advice and pep talks and having great wisdom to share. I'm good at hugs, making a cup of coffee and handing people tissues. So here is your virtual hug :grouphug: and if you need a tissue I'll try and smoosh one through the computer screen to you. I'll owe you a cup of coffee if you decide to run in January.

The virtual hug is much appreciated! (As is the offer for coffee!)

Okay, off to finish the cold brew ... brb to finish replies.
 
I have been right there in this spot. I still kind of only see myself as a casual runner and I have done two marathons with the Dopey Challenge.

Yeah. This is basically what I'm trying to figure out - can I be a casual runner and still run a few marathons? It seems to work for other people (like you), but I'm having a hard time coming to terms with it for myself.

Glad to see you are feeling somewhat better this morning.

I thought I would share a little of my running journey. I hope that’s okay.

I’m single, and I don’t have kids (but I do have a dog).

New job, New city. I needed to find something to be active. I loved to hike, but really nowhere to do that where I live now. I would do a couple classes at the gym, but never really committed and stuck with anything. I would do workout videos at home sometimes. But nothing really stuck.

I had a friend who had just ran a half marathon, so I thought I might try that. I used to hate running. I would try and run and stop because I hated it. When I learned that I needed to slow my pace down is when I started to be okay with it.

I signed up for a local store’s half marathon training program, and I mostly followed the plan. This was for a fall 2014 half. I made it through a couple halves that fall, and thought that I could continue doing this.

Before or even right after running these first two half marathons, I thought running a marathon would be impossible. No way would I want to or could I do that. But my local race series had a spring to fall back to back challenge, with special pricing right up until new year’s, and on a whim, I signed up for the half to full challenge!! What was I thinking! (Oh, and I signed up for the Dopey Challenge before running that first marathon!?!?)

I was able to sign up for the Disney Half in 2015, when they did the Goofy gives back. I slacked on my training that fall, and it ended up being a pretty painful half marathon, but I loved it! How can you not love running your first Disney Run?? Lesson learned for me, though - don’t slack on training.

After running my first marathon (fall 2015), I never looked back. It’s the distance I like, I think because it provides a challenge. Something that I have to work for, and feel pretty accomplished afterwards.

I would have definitely considered myself a casual runner. I was never going to win anything. I followed a training plan, but didn’t really put in extra effort. I ran with my training group, and just enjoyed running with them. It wasn’t until really this past Dopey Challenge, when I asked Billy to write a plan for me that I really started wanting to improve my time. For the most part I ran races just enjoying them - running a good pace, but nothing overly challenging. Training was a social activity.

This past training session has been a little harder since I’ve only been running one run a week with my training group. I can definitely understand just wanting to go home and do nothing. That sounds really good sometimes (a lot of times??). But I know what I want my end goal to be, which is why I keep running. The feeling at the end of a marathon for me is great.

If you want to run a marathon, you will find a way to make a training plan work for you. If you never want to run a marathon, that’s okay to. Just be happy with what you want to do. Only you can decide what works for you. And if you only want to dedicate a certain amount of time to running, great! If you decide you want to dedicate a little more time each week, great! You do you, and don’t let anyone else’s training, negatively affect you.

I really enjoy reading your training journal - so I hope you keep it up. :)

That was really long - SORRY!!

Thank you for sharing your story!
I've actually thought about joining a group run or training group to see if that helps motivate me, but I'm too nervous that between the run/walk intervals and my slower pace, I'd just end up basically running on my own. I'm basically anti-social, so running has never been a social activity for me, but I wonder if trying to make it into more of a social activity would take some of the pressure off of it...

We are all here rooting for you, Sarah, whichever way you go! :)

Thank you!

Also, I don't always drink fancy beer!
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Okay, good. Because some people will only drink craft beers that are made in small batches and sold to select stores and bars and only use a certain hops and blah blah blah ... bite me. I like my Blue Moon just fine ... I don't care if it's mass produced and tastes like corporate money ... apparently I like how corporate money tastes (I also happen to like a lot of Blue Moon's seasonal flavors ... but that's not entirely relevant).

Breaking Disney Starbucks news! New Magic Kingdom mug featuring Tomorrowland!

I thought this would be big news here...

Interesting...


I kinda like it, but I don't love it.
It's not enough to make me buy a mug that I wouldn't use, but it's not bad.

I have the originals in mug form and the newer ceramic tumblrs of each park. I don’t even drink a lot of coffee but I like mugs.

Lots of people collect things they don't use. I have like 600 keychains ... I don't have 600 keys.
Having lots of mugs and drinking lots of coffee don't have to go hand in hand.
Also ... other things can go in mugs.
 
The best part of this new mug is that they are staying with the "You are Here" mugs in favor of the new ugly (sorry @jennamfeo :rotfl2:) mugs! Woohoo!!

And I didn't say this the first time, but thanks for sharing your thoughts/struggles. I have had similar thoughts, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one.
I also would like to mention that it's ok to challenge yourself (to run more, to reach big goals, etc), but also ok to give yourself some grace. You just started a new job (#stressful!) and have other things going on. You'll figure out the right balance, it just might take some time.
 
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The best part of this new mug is that they are staying with the "You are Here" mugs in favor of the new ugly (sorry @jennamfeo :rotfl2:) mugs! Woohoo!!

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.
And they're still selling the You Are Here mugs in most of the stores around here. So it seems like they're definitely not completely done with then.

And I didn't say this the first time, but thanks for sharing your thoughts/struggles. I have had similar thoughts, so it's nice to know I'm not the only one.

In a world of runners, you are never alone :)

I also would like to mention that it's ok to challenge yourself (to run more, to reach big goals, etc), but also ok to give yourself some grace. You just started a new job (#stressful!) and have other things going on. You'll figure out the right balance, it just might take some time.

Thanks.
 
Daily Update:
Tempo run was ok this morning.
En route to the running store now for insoles (my new shoes are in my bag).
I'm thinking barre on Wednesday next week, then sleep in on Thursday morning and run (literally) up to NYRR after work on Thursday to get my bib and tshirt for next sundays race. Of course, I'll probably be too impatient to wait until Thursday and will go earlier in the week.

Also ... typing while walking up stairs is hard.

Update: Not the best running store experience. And there was no need to even bring my shoes with me, since I never took the insoles out of the box.
Okay. Whatever. Moving on...
I think I've decided that when I upgrade my Garmin, I'm going Vivoactive 3. I like the touchscreen more than I thought I would.
 
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Update: As I suspected, the insoles are a little big and need to be cut down. And I have to do it myself. I'm not so good with scissors.
Grr. This is why I wanted someone to put them in the shoes at the running store so that they could cut them down for me.

For the record ... I had a better than decent morning.
 

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